Joe Alwyn may not exactly be an international man of mystery, but never before have we known less about Taylor Swift's love life.
He's not a nobody, but most of her exes have been household names themselves. Plus she's written songs about most of them.
It turns out that some answers about Taylor's current relationship have come from a different singer -- Selena Gomez.
Selena was interviewed on SiriusXM, and shared her thoughts on Taylor Swift's boyfriend Joe Alwyn.
Like, they talked about other things, too. Selena's a celebrity in her own right, and we were listening to her music for years before we ever started marathoning Taylor's songs.
But the two are famous for their friendship. Selena gave an appropriately polite but vague answer:
"Honestly, if my friends are happy, that makes me happy. That's all I care about."
That is one of the most diplomatic imaginable ways to say that you're not going to blab about your friend's personal life.
That's extra important, considering that Taylor initially wanted to keep Joe Alwyn a secret.
We don't know as much about Joe Alwyn as we do about ... well, any of Taylor's exes.
He has the first name of an average person and the last name of an up-and-coming wizard's apprentice, but clearly Taylor wants to do her best to avoid excessive exposure.
The feud and break-up were just ... catalysts.
But she's clearly looking to lay low for a while longer.
Kind of hard to do when you're one of the most famous people on the planet, but we get it.
Selena's relationship with The Weeknd is fairly low-key, considering that they were both already famous.
Which is not to say that Selena's been keeping the relationship a secret, by any means. They're even Instagram official.
Selena did open up a little about how things are going with them, but kept her answers almost as vague as Taylor's.
"I hang out with my new person a lot."
The Weeknd is her "new person," clearly, but we think that she was trying to match her tone to her answer about Joe Alwyn rather than imply that she's just had a new boyfriend delivered.
Also, we already knew that they hang out a lot, as they've been spotted absolutely everywhere.
She also added that it wasn't only the happiness of her friends that matters to her.
"So, I'm super stoked, too. It's been a good time."
You know, good for her, right?
It's good that their relationship is so strong, and that neither of them seem to feel insecure when she praised ex Justin Bieber's Manchester performance.
Selena and Taylor have been friends for years and years.
Like, before we ever associated Taylor Swift and her friends with a "squad," these two extraordinarily talented singers were hanging out together.
That also means that Taylor must have put up with a lot during Selena's Bieber years.
So it's no surprise that Selena's been sticking by Taylor's side during her recent public opinion rough patch.
That's what friendship's really about, you know?
No matter what rollercoasters of relationships or popularity these girls ride in life, they're both extraordinary singers.
We'll be enjoying their music for years and years to come.
And it's heartening to know that, even if both of them call it quits with their boyfriends tomorrow, they'll still both be ride-or-die with each other.