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Oprah Winfrey has made headlines recently, thanks to a book by Kitty Kelley accusing her of lying about her upbringing, sexuality and other matters.

One way to take negative heat off yourself? Interview Octomom!

Though she has no regrets, Nadya “Octomom” Suleman the Big O via satellite that she lives with a “tremendous amount of guilt” for what she did.

That being give birth to eight babies as an unemployed single mother of six. She said she did it out of her “own childish desires to compensate.”

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Raised an only child, she said she was “trying to fill some missing piece inside.” Oddly enough, they were conceived IVF – no actual piece inside.

Nadya Suleman: Just so wrong.

Instead of filling the void with a significant other, she filled it with Elijah, 8; Amerah, 7; Joshua, 6, Aiden, 5, twins Caleb and Calyssa, 3; and the 14-month octuplets, Noah, Maliyah, Isaiah, Nariyah, Makai, Josiah, Jeremiah and Jonah.

“I’ve always coveted that connection, that attachment to another being.”

“The connection felt safer with children than with a significant other, more predictable,” said Nadya Suleman. “The security. I was hungering for security.”

Not financial security, obviously, but that’s another ball of wax.

“We’re surviving,” she said (thanks to a bailout by PETA). “We’re going, going, going, just trying to keep up. You don’t have time to think, to reflect, feel anything. It is a choice. I own all of the responsibility for my poor choices.”

Perhaps the first intelligent thing she’s ever said.

 
“Do I regret [it]?” she asked. “You can’t regret children … But the choices were childish. They were immature. They were selfish. Are we defined by our choices? Our behavior? Our actions? No. I don’t believe that defines our worth.”

“I feel as though I wasn’t thinking at that time,” she continued. “If I could go back, would I make different choices? Maybe. At this point, I know and I need to teach my children that we need to learn, we need to grow.”

“We need to keep on growing and transcending, and we need to make the best possible choices. And when we make poor choices, all you can do is really, really learn from that and grow from that. Try not to repeat it.”

As for having more kids (please, please don’t)?

“At this point in my life, that is the furthest thing that I would ever even imagine,” she said. “I cannot grow additional eyes or hands. I’m not an octopus.”

That didn’t stop her the first time, but hey.

“I live every single day every hour of the day with a tremendous amount of guilt,” she went on. “And I feel guilty when I hold the one or two and then that I can’t be there for the others. And they’re crying. And I feel guilty.”

“I’ll live with this forever. But all I can do now is keep on going, keep moving. Keep on trying to be the most devoted mother I can be.”