It's hard to believe, but Kailyn Lowry is only 28 years old and about a month away from welcoming her fourth child.
Her fourth child by three different men, we ought to add, with the third man in particular an exercise in how not to parent.
No judgment meant here. Just facts.
And one might think that these facts would prompt the Delaware resident to call it a career as far as pregnancies go.
Or at least balk at the notion of expanding her immediate family beyond herself and four boys under the age of 10.
The Teen Mom 2 star said this week that she isn't done procreating ... even after the tumult that has marred her relationship with Chris Lopez and both her third and forth / current pregnancies.
“I don’t think I would have ever pictured myself 10 years ago when I had Isaac having four kids,” Lowry told her co-host Lindsie Chrisley on the latest edition of their Coffee Convos podcast.
As for what she can picture down the line?
“Six is my max,” Kailyn said her having more offspring, later adding: “I’m not confirming or denying.
"I’m just saying I would not have more than six.”
Well, you gotta draw that line somewhere.
For the record: The MTV personality became famous thanks to having a son, now 10-year old Isaac, with ex Jo Rivera.
She's also mom to six-year old Lincoln, whom she shares with her ex-husband Javi Marroquin.
She's also mom to two-year old Lux, whom she shares with her ex-lover or whatever Lopez.
Lopez is going for two later this year.
Lowry is on decent terms with her first two exes, both of whom are involved in the lives of their sons.
She's NOT on strong terms at all with Lopez... despite currently expecting another child with him.
Kailyn actually had a restraining order against Lopez at the time their unprotected sexual dalliance led to this impending baby.
It's a long story and an unusual one, that's for sure.
On the podcast, Lindsie said that she questions someone’s “mental stability” who wants to have six kids. Not a terrible point.
Lowry explained her basis for entertaining such a possibility:
“I’ve said it before…I just didn’t have siblings or family before, so, like, having a big family…since I started having kids, I always wanted my kids to have siblings," she said.
This makes a little bit of sense.
At some point, however, you'd think that three siblings for each kid would be enough. And you'd also think that maybe Kailyn wouldn't want any more kids until she was in a stable relationship.
But, look, judge Lowry all you want.
Truth be told, her children all seem happy and healthy.
Unlike some other Teen Moms, Lowry has never really been accused of endangering them or of not making them a priority in her life.
Her home life isn't exactly the norm, but whatever works, right?
Whatever makes her happy and whatever ensures her beautiful young sons are living a content and productive existence.
All this said, Lowry acknowledges that her blended life presents a challenge ... which might be putting it mildly.
She and Jo have had their moments, but typically get along well, and have moved on with co-parenting relatively smoothly.
But Kail has no relationship at all with Javi's girlfriend, Lauren Comeau, and her relationship with Lopez is anything but simple.
“If Chris were to have kids with someone else, that would be really, really difficult for me,” she said on the podcast.
“But I definitely think that, ultimately, when push comes to shove, I would put Lux’s relationship with his siblings first.
"I mean, maybe not right away."
"But I definitely would come around to it, just because I want them to have that relationship with their siblings.”
Lowry is due in August - and she dropped another nuclear bombshell on Teen Mom 2 fans in this discussion:
She plans to have a home birth, and to have it filmed!
“I say that now, but when I’m in active labor I don’t know what I’m going to do," Lowry quipped on the show.
“They’ve never seen a home birth,” Kailyn said.
“I told one of the producers, ‘I’m definitely willing to film it as much as I can on my own, but I do not want the crew there.’”