Madonna covers the latest issue of Cosmopolitan, talking to the magazine about nothing of controversy or substance at all and giving a very tame interview.
The singer, who recently declared war on Instagram by going topless, instead opens up to the publication about a number of issues.
To start with, sexism. And… go, Madonna!
"Don’t be fooled, not much has changed – certainly not for women. We still live in a very sexist society that wants to limit people.
"Since I started, I’ve had people giving me a hard time because they didn’t think you could be sexual or have sexuality or sensuality in your work and be intelligent at the same time. For me, the fight has never ended."
What about working with Kanye West on her new album? Did she clash with Mr. Kim Kardashian?
"It’s a little bit of a bullfight, but we take turns," she says. "He knows that he’s walking into a room with a person with a strong point of view, and I do too.
"I listen to what he has to say, take it in, and he listens to what I say and takes it in. We didn’t agree on everything, but he has good ideas."
And what about those trolls? Those people who live to bring others down online?
"You can hide behind your computer or your phone and say whatever you want – you’re not known. Could you say it to my face? Would you say it to my face? I doubt it."
We strongly doubt it.