Following the Keeping Up With The Kardashians finale, Kim Kardashian was a guest on Busy Tonight.
One of the many subjects that she and Busy Philipps addressed was Kim’s controversial visit to the White House.
She also talks about doing ecstasy and reveals what she knows about whether Kylie and Travis Scott are married.
Right after Kim comes out to speak to her longtime friend Busy, she acknowledges that her plunging neckline is a little conspicuous.
"Your boobs are kind of always hanging out, Kim," Busy points out.
Then they get down to business.
Apart from a brief aside about using obscenities in front of their children (they both do it), they talk about a major part of the Keeping Up With The Kardashians finale.
They talk about Kim’s trip to the White House to meet with Donald Trump.
Kim knew that meeting with the most hated man in the world would be controversial, but she did it to send Alice Johnson home.
"I just thought, you know what? Everyone talks shit about me all day long anyway, I’m gonna go and not worry about what people say about me," Kim explains.
Alice is a grandmother who was serving a life sentence for a non-violent drug offense, because our justice system is often unjust.
Kim decided that earning a little ire by kissing the orange man’s boot was worth it.
"I’m gonna go and do the thing that I feel like is the right thing to do," Kim continues.
"And I’m gonna talk to the person who has the most power to make this decision," Kim affirms. "The only person."
Trump is the only person who currently has the power to pardon people for federal offenses.
She says that, despite Trump’s desire to appear "tough on crime," he eventually came around to see things her way.
"I’m very grateful to the president for helping us out with this issue," Kim says.
"I might not agree with the policies, but I stay focused on this subject," she continues.
If you want to influence powerful, petty people, sometimes it’s best to bite your tongue.
"Snd for me," Kim says. "It wasn’t about politics. It was really about people and her."
Trump is famously a bobblehead — that is, someone who seems to agree with whoever spoke to him last.
That means that, sometimes, he can be pursuaded to do the right thing.
It’s great that Kim was able to use his fondness for being liked to do some good.
Kanye’s outspoken support of Donald Trump has been deeply controversial.
Kim characterizes that as Kanye wanting the "freedom" to like Trump.
It sounds like Kanye is confused — because he is already free to like Trump.
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences, however.
On a very different and thankfully less political subject, Kim talks to Busy about her recent admission to having used ecstasy.
"People that were close to me, that obviously know that, that life of mine, they’re like, ‘I can’t believe you said that,’" Kim says.
"And I was like, well, I mean I never really hide anything," she explains. "And if anything, it’s just weird to people."
Kim continues: "like I’ve done ecstasy but I don’t drink, I don’t smoke weed, I don’t, I don’t do anything."
"So it’s weird to, like, have done that, but I think that I was so young," she concludes.
She also shares that she was frank about it with her mother, and that Kris had worried that she would become drug-addled or even infertile. Adorable.
Speaking of Kim’s family, she also goes into Kylie and Travis’ habit of referring to each other as if they’re married.
Busy asks if they have gotten married behind the scenes.
"I honestly don’t know," Kim confesses.
"They’re the cutest and I think they’re so in love and they have the cutest little family," she gushes.
Kim then answers: "I would say no, they’re just being cute and posting that."
But then Kim seems to consider. "They’ve posted it a few times. So I am going to ask in our group chat today when we leave here."
"F–k," Busy laments. "I wish you had asked before."
That would have made a hell of a story.
But Kim still touched on plenty of subjects.