Joe Biden on Gun Control: 2nd Amendment Does Not Allow Tank or F-15 Ownership!

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In the national gun control debate, Vice President Joe Biden is viewed as the Democratic party's point man on strengthening the limits of firearm ownership.

In an online town-hall Q&A this week, Biden was bombarded by people skeptical of his efforts to ban assault weapons and high capacity magazines.

One participant asked Biden how he and President Barack Obama reconciled a ban on assault weapons with those already in the hands of criminals.

"How can say this politely?" Biden said. "The Constitution does allow the government to conclude there are certain types of weapons that no one can legally known."

"If that were not the case, then you should be able to go buy a flame-thrower that the military has. [Or] if you're a billionaire, buy an F-15 loaded with ordnance."

"You should be able to buy an M1 tank. You should be able to buy a machine gun. You should be able to buy a grenade launcher. And you can't do those things."

The V.P. said if one accepts those limitations, the question becomes balancing the right to weapons for self defense, sporting, and those outlawed.

Joe Biden owns two shotguns (as he pointed out memorably in the video below) and often references this in debates of the practicality of assault weapons.

In a particularly offbeat moment today, he explained an imaginary scenario where trouble would come to the Delaware home he shares with wife Jill.

"I said, 'Jill, if there's ever a problem, just walk out on the balcony here, walk out and put that double-barrel shotgun and fire two blasts outside the house."

Continuing his hypothetical altercation, Biden stated a shotgun would be easier to fend off an intruder than the civilian variant of an M-16 assault rifle.

"You don't need an AR-15," he said. "It's harder to aim, it's harder to use, and in fact you don't need 30 rounds to protect yourself," he said. "Buy a shotgun."

Biden broached the heated gun control debate from all fronts.

When another reader questioned how a "ban on guns" would work when prohibition of narcotics failed to keep them off the streets, Biden responded curtly.

"There is no ban on guns," he said. "No one's banning the gun. No one's taking my shotguns. I have two shotguns at home. They're in a - in a cabinet. They're locked."

"There is a ammunition there as well. No one is going to come and take my gun. No one's going to take anyone's gun. We're talking about a background check."

He then asked whether the drug analogy even made sense.

"Are you suggesting we just legalize all drugs?That would go real well in Parents magazine," he said, referring to the sponsor of the town hall event.

"Let's talk about everybody being able to - no matter what your age, go out and be able to purchase cocaine. What do you think about that idea?"

"Look, these comparisons are not appropriate, quite frankly."

Your take: Time for more stricter gun control laws?

 

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Joe Biden what a fucking shed TOOL !

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Shotguns being 'better' is subjective. Shotguns have one Hell of a kick. The recoil is exponentially greater then an AR-15 sporting rifle. A 7 year old can fire an AR-15 steadily and accurately. There are numerous videos on youtube showing first-timers with shotguns where the gun literally flies out of their hands or cracks them in the shoulder or face. The muzzle blast is enough to potentially blind and deafen you in an enclosed space. A shotgun also has a much higher risk of overpenetration, similar to handguns, compared to a .223 which will break up sooner due to high velocity fragmentation of such a tiny round. The difference in accuracy cannot be stressed enough. You can put multiple .223 rounds in a 1 inch square at 100m if your good. That counts for alot; you want to be confident that your weapons platform will hit the target accurately and consistently especially when dealing with attackers in your home where one stray bullet could put an innocent on a stretcher. Ammunition capacity is also Very important to a defender. When you get into a high stress situation like a home invasion, fight or flight kicks in. Adrenaline pumps through your veins, affecting your fine motor skills and hampering your aim. Being able to make multiple, quick followup shots on an attacker can mean the difference between life and death. You don't want an attacker to still be standing when your weapon runs dry; a tragedy is soon to follow. The accessories make a massive difference as well. Laser optics and LED lights help you identify people in your home at night(so you don't accidentally shoot something you care about) and see exactly where your shots are going. Adjustable stocks and vert. grips help control recoil, steady aim, fire more comfortably and stay on target in case the first shot misses or it takes more then one to drop an attacker. Shotguns certainly have their place and are useful, but I would NEVER recommend something as useless as a dbl barreled shotgun to anyone, let alone for them to fire it irresponsibly(and illegally) into the air to 'scare' someone off while simultaneously rendering you defenseless as you have just wasted your /2/ round capacity. If you want a shotgun, get a Remington 870, you can get them in capacity's up to 8 or so shells. Get a forend that can sport an LED light. Train with it. Get used to it. Still, racking that slide is harder, and takes longer, then simply pulling the trigger for a rifle or handgun. And sometimes, its that split-second that counts.

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Sorry Joe, I hate to tell you, but you don't know the laws you are trying to modify. A civilian can own an M1 tank, bazooka, mortars, artillery pieces, machine guns, sound suppressors and other devices through the National Firearms Act of 1934. It is included as Title II to the 1968 Gun Control Act.

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What an inferior, inept, clueless, combo. Joe the jerk, Biden, and Barack, the oblivious Muslim puppet, Obama.

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More gun bans will accomplish nothing. Criminals and the mentally ill will not line up at police stations to turn in their guns. Chicago is an example of strict gun laws that don't work. Liberal democrate's just don't get it.

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George, please turn in your computer/smart phone, your TV, telephone, any radios you might own, as none of these thing were in existence at the time of the signing of The Constitution. And therefore must not be protected by said document. Now, on to bigger idiots: "You should be able to buy an M1 tank. You should be able to buy a machine gun. You should be able to buy a grenade launcher. And you can't do those things." The thing is, you can do all of these things. With the right taxes paid, and enough money, citizens can, and do own all of these things. The Founding Fathers had just fought a bloody revolution against a government trying to do what ours is doing, and has been doing to us for sometime. It was their intention to have the average citizen armed on par with every military on the planet, including our own. Especially our own. Anyone acting as though the Founders could not foresee advances in technology, are ignorant of both history, and technology. Multi, and rapid fire weapons did in fact exist in the days of the founders, the Puckle gun, volley guns just to name a couple. Lewis and Clark carried with them on their journey westward, .46 caliber, semi-automatic air rifles. With which they killed many buffalo to eat, and many indians in self defense. These are not what we know of today as airguns, but at least as powerful, and in most cases, more powerful than firearms of the day. Not to mention existing prior to the signing of The Constitution.

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Exactly. Now go exercise your Right and buy thyself a musket.