In recent weeks, Jill Duggar and Derick Dillard have been opening up to fans via candid Q&A sessions on YouTube.
The couple has addressed topics ranging from their use of birth control to Jill’s decision to drink alcohol.
In the third installment of the series, which debuted earlier this week, Jill and Derick revealed that their friend group includes non-Christians as well as members of the LGBTQ+ community.
This came as a surprise to many viewers, as Derick was fired from Counting On following his continued harassment of teenage trans reality star Jazz Jennings.
But Jill says she and her husband are capable of forming friendships with people they disagree with.
Hopefully, someone will eventually point out to these two that being gay or trans is not a choice, but we suppose they deserve some credit for taking baby steps in the right direction.
"Yes, we have lots of non-Christian friends," Derick said at one point.
"We have friends that are part of the LGBTQ+ community."
For some reason, he went on to compare being a decent human being toward people with different lifestyles to the friendship between Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Anontin Scalia.
"I think it’s a misconception that just because you disagree with someone that you can’t be friends," Derick said.
"And in light of the recent passing of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, I think Justice Scalia and Justice Ginsburg’s relationship in the legal profession was a good example of that," he continued.
"From what I hear, they had a great relationship despite having sharp disagreements at times."
"You can disagree with someone and still be respectful, and still be friends," Jill added.
"As Christians, we believe that there are certain things that are sinful, like adultery — so, cheating on your spouse or something — or sex before marriage, [or] homosexuality. Those are things that we believe are sinful," she continued, reminding the world that she’s still a Duggar.
"But there’s a lot of things [that are sinful], too, so it doesn’t mean that we might not be friends with people, because ultimately, we’re all sinners."
From there, Jill further pissed her father off by saying she doesn’t enjoy forcing her beliefs on people, even though that’s pretty much the family business.
"If I’m around somebody, they might know what I believe, but that doesn’t mean I’m gonna just rub it in their face all the time either," she said.
"So, I have friends who I hand out with, and we do not agree on everything."
At that point, Derick — or #WokeDer, as we assume he prefers to be called now — noted that if he were invited to the home of a transgender person, he would use their preferred pronouns.
"I’m gonna use whatever pronoun they want me to," Derick said.
That’s great and all, but we’re not sure how hard Derick expects us to pat him on the back for not being a bigoted a-hole to someone in their own home.
"I think it’s healthy to have discussions and even debates, for those of you who like to debate, in the right space,’ Jill said.
"But you want to be respectful, self-controlled. Oftentimes, I see people who are not and that’s disheartening."
Derick added that it’s a sign of a good friendship when two people can disagree strongly and then "go have a beer afterwards."
Of course, this is an "actions speak louder than words" situation, as Derick has a long history of being disrespectful toward people with whom he disagrees.
But hey, at least he drinks beer now.