Like the rest of America, Mady and Cara Gosselin think their estranged father, Jon is kind of a loser.
The twins don't have a relationship with Jon because they choose not to, not because their mother, Kate tries to prevent it.
He makes it seem like we're being kept from him, which is insane," Mady told People Magazine.
"He should maybe spend some time thinking about why we don't want to see him, and maybe realize that if he ever does want a relationship with us, talking about us on TV is not the way to make that happen."
Jon spoke to Yahoo! and Entertainment Tonight recently about his broken relationship with his eldest daughters, and his account of what happened is completely different from theirs.
"He doesn't even know us," Mady adds. "How can he dare to talk about us?"
Cara, who let her sister do most of the talking, was at a loss for words when asked about her fractured relationship with Jon.
"I wouldn't even know what to say about him," she said.
Jon thinks that his daughters were being fed lies by his ex-wife, and therefore stopped spending time with him.
"Madelyn and Cara, I don't see that much, or often. We're kind of not talking right now," Jon told ET.
"Everybody used to come to my house.
"You know, it was great, and then Madelyn and Cara just stopped coming, around 12-13 [years old]. I didn't question it. I was just like, 'Hey, do what you want, be with your friends' and then it just became they're not coming."
Jon thinks keeping his distance from Mady and Cara is the best thing for them at this point, which is kind of the opposite of what he should be doing.
"They're moving into womanhood," he said. "They'll be 16 in October. I hope I can talk to them and develop a relationship in the future. But there's a lot of stuff that has to go on before that."
This guy needs to STFU and start acting like an adult.