Ben Seewald has been expressing his views on race relations online.
Insiders say his in-laws are less than thrilled about his (slightly) left-leaning beliefs.
Here, Ben can be seen interviewing Christian rapper Flame.
Flame would later become famous thanks to a high-profile lawsuit against Katy Perry.
But in those days, he was just a friend of the Seewalds.
And it seems he had a particularly close bond with Ben.
Ben might not be the greatest interviewer.
But it's a mildly interesting conversation.
Check it out: