Recently, Jon Gosselin spoke about how often he really sees his other kids, be they the four with Kate or the two who are now in college.
His most noticeable estrangement is from Mady and Cara, the twins.
But Jon vows that he would never try to force them to speak to him. Unlike certain people, he respects that his kids are people.
Jon Gosselin recently spoke to In Touch Weekly about his ongoing estrangement from the twins, his eldest childen, Mady and Cara.
For example, has he reached out and insisted that they speak to him like a douchenozzle?
"No,": Jon replies. "They’re adults now."
"I think you just need maturity to figure out what … in your own mind what happened," he says vaguely. "So you can figure it out."
"Yeah, I text them on their birthday," Jon acknowledges.
"But," he continues. "It’s kind of like I have hoped that they’ll talk to me again or whatever."
The father of eight has clearly developed a method of compartmentalizing so that he can discuss his complicated family so casually.
You can tell that estrangement is not easy for him, but that he's biting his tongue to avoid putting media pressure on his children.
Though Jon is no longer under a gag order about his ex and his children, he refuses to use interviews to apply pressure to any of his kids.
"But I just didn’t do anything publicly because … Their last interview or whatever … it was like okay, I’m just not going to say anything," Jon says.
"I get it, okay," he adds.
"Maybe I shouldn’t say anything or post anything anymore," Jon recalls concluding.
"Let them live their lives," he expresses. "I know they’re happy."
A few years ago, Mady and Cara gave an interview that did not have any kind words towards Jon.
"He makes it seem like we’re being kept from him, which is insane …" Mady said in 2016.
"He should maybe spend some time thinking about why we don’t want to see him," she suggested.
Mady continued: "And maybe realize that if he ever does want a relationship with us, talking about us on TV is not the way to make that happen."
Jon clearly got the message loud and clear, much faster than a lot of other celebrity parents have learned the same lesson.
(That could be shade at Heidi Montag's mom, but it's not; it's absolutely shade at Thomas Markle Sr)
"You have to have your own relationships," Jon expresses.
He says that this is important "so you can understand what happens in relationships sometimes."
So, Jon is clearly being vague in places here, in part to avoid singling out Mady and Cara against their wishes.
Like we've said, this is a complicated subject and he has a lot of feelings about it.
But he also seems to be insinuating that, given time and life experience, the twins will see that he's not the bad guy.
Or, at the very least, they will understand that he is not the only bad guy in their lives.
It is unfortunately very natural, when parents have a contentious divorce, for children to eventually feel that they must pick a side.
While one might think that kids will side with whichever parent treats them better, that is not always the case.
Complex psychological factors and emotional survival instincts come into play on a subconscious level.
Some kids will fell compelled to side with a parent who is objectively terrible, channeling all of their anger at the parent whom they say "left."