They survived a Halloween party at the Playboy Mansion without incident - does that mean there's hope for Shanna Moakler and Travis Barker as a couple?
Kind of. But not really.
The morning after the party, Barker stopped by Moakler's house to pick up supplies for their kids â€" daughter Alabama, 10 months, and son Landon, 2 â€" who were on their way to Disneyland.
Moakler told People magazine she "sensed" the visit was meant to re-establish a relationship:
"I thought at the end of the discussion he and I could work towards being friends and that could work towards getting back together."
Wow. Even after Travis was caught making out with Paris Hilton?
Barker, of course, had a slightly different take: "I didn't go there and say, 'I'm madly in love with you, Shanna,' " he said. "If anything, there was an attempt to reconnect. I told her I was ready to be her friend."
But that changed on Monday. Moakler saw some photos of Barker sticking "his tongue down Paris' throat at the mansion." She referred to this kiss as being in "very poor taste."
That's the case with any Paris Hilton kiss, though. Just ask Stavros Niarchos or one of a half million other guys.
For now, therefore, Shanna says friendship is out of the question. Barker, however, doesn't see what all of he fuss is about.
"Paris and I have tongue kissed before. It's not unusual for me to say hello to Paris and kiss her, but it's not like we are a couple or anything," he said. "When we see each other, we say hello. That's it â€¦ I was like any other single young man, just enjoying myself."
He went on to say that Hilton wasn't the only girl he kissed that night. It sounds to us like Barker could guest star on Laguna Beach.