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Chris Harrison hilariously tell us at the end of every season of The Bachelor and The Bachelorette that this is going to be epic.

We’re about to see the most shocking, most dramatic, emotional finale ever, he tells us. But which finales truly stand out most?

Sometimes, it’s the season finale with a surprising winner.

Sometimes, it’s a little extra drama or an epic meltdown.

And sometimes (cough, Brad) there’s no proposal at all.

Well, we’ve decided to take a look back and rank the 17 most shocking finales from both The Bachelor and The Bachelorette.

Where do we place last night’s The Bachelorette season finale, in which JoJo Fletcher and Jordan Rodgers got engaged?

Which was the most insane in BACHELOR HISTORY?

Check them out and see if you remember these – we’re sure you do, if you’re reading this – and if you agree with our rankings!