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January 23rd, 2008 8:08 PM
I understand where Woods is coming from, he seems to keep his class in check. But somethings are not about him. This young woman said people should lynch him which has racial undertones, not to mention if she is a "friend" she would not find getting on TV talking about killing him funny.
January 21st, 2008 9:11 PM
She is a dirty little ho, she needs to be fired!
January 21st, 2008 8:05 PM
Al Sharpton and others: GET OVER IT. This was a mistake with no ill will intended. Was Tawana Brawley a simple mistake? No, it was an attempt by a racist to take down someone white. This world has gone to the PC crowd who want to bring this country down.
January 21st, 2008 6:04 PM
Kelly mean't nothing untoward in her ". . . lynch . . . " remark, re: Tiger Woods. Consequently, she has nothing to apologize for.
Once again we see opportunists in the liberal community - black, white, etc. - seizing on any comment to get their whiny rhetoric back on the front page.
If the opportunists keep this crap up we're gonna see a return to a brand of racism the likes of which most people have never encountered.
January 21st, 2008 5:05 PM
HOLY COW, I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT A PUBLICITY MONGER ALL SHARPTON IS, IF HE ISN'T ON THE FUNERAL CARTAGE FOR JAMES BROWN OR SAYING BLACK MEN THAT ACTUALLY DID KILL SOMEONE ARE BEING PROFILED HE IS BUSY STICKING HIS NOSE INTO ANYTHING THAT WILL BE HIM IN THE PRESS.MY HONEST OBSERVATION IS THAT HE SHOULD GO HOME AND WASH HIS GREASY HAIR AND CLEAN OUT HIS EARS, HE JUST DOESN'T HEAR THINGS RIGHT.KELLY TIGHMAN DID NOT MEAN ANYTHING,ESPECIALLY FOR A FRIEND LIKE TIGER.GET A LIFE PEOPLE.i'M IN MY 70TIES LIVE IN THE SOUTH AND HAVE SEEN ALOT,LOL
LEIGH
January 21st, 2008 2:05 PM
This article starts off by saying Kelly is a "cute" golf announcer. Isn't that sexist? I mean, they don't use "cute" to describe the male announcers. The writer of the article should be suspended for 2 weeks, or at least let Al Sharptonue know about it so he can say something stupid.
See how easy it easy to say something that can be misconstrued easily?
I boycotted the golf channel until Kelly's back. From what I see on the sports news, I haven't missed much at except a tournament with a bunch of no names.
January 21st, 2008 9:29 AM
Just another cowardly remark made by a white person. And still people want to cover up for this ignorant white girl. I do not see why african americans continue to cry everytime a white person makes a racists remark. All we need to do is give white people the same treatment that they give us. Make them feel uncomfortable in the public eye, and watch there response to our action. See if they just brush that under the mat. White people probably will scream bloody-murder.
January 20th, 2008 8:57 AM
"Kelly and Tiger are friends," but Kelly and the rest of Black America isn't.
We all know what the noose was used for. Then here it goes again, "I'm sorry! It was all in joke! or I didn't mean it"! or what about the old favorite, "I'm not a racist!" If you are not racist do not say things that implicate that you are!" Tell me, why does ANYONE have to get on any type of media and say something royally racially stupid? You so call pride yourselves in upholding your standard of life but you just have to try to step on someone that you obviously think is unequal to you. Save it! If it is just a slip of the tongue as many of you want the rest of us to think, then you really need look at yourselves without the rose colored glasses. There is just no need or no room to put anyone else down whether it is a joke or not. Every few months it seems that a caucasian has got to open their mouth wide and insert his or her foot in it. What in heaven's name is going on with this trend? Now some of you are claiming that you are sick of the magnifying glass reflecting on these mostly ignorant sayings. Here is a clue... Stop floating down the river of denial and wake up White America, you talkabout being courteous and respectful to others, but it seems that most of you cannot let differences in people lie and whether it is a joke or not it is not up to you to make light of it.
January 12th, 2008 11:05 AM
I wish folks like Rev. Al Shapton would stop turning "insensitive" remarks into his favorite cause racism. If Rev. Al wants the younger gernerations to be more civil toward one another then he should call Kelly's comments what they were...hurtful but clearly NOT racist!!!
January 11th, 2008 9:14 PM
Kelly and
tiger are friends, she commented she apologized.. Geta clue ll Tiger has more class than all those digging for a racist connection Kelly as well!!!!! Let it go ..
Take care of your own business and stop looking for someone to blame for your own racist anger... It's pathetic.. Tiger has never been a black man to begin with... He is an asian african AMERICAN !!!! A great golfer a great man and someone we all are proud of!! Don''''''t make more out of it, it only makes the angry weak racists look racist.. Stop blaming others for your own guilt
January 11th, 2008 9:10 PM
I seriously fear people who compare real life with tv westerns they grew up watching… /shudders
by disgusted
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Um. Those movies were based on something, Genius; that something would be real life.
The vast majority of lynchings that occurred in the Western US were NOT black. The vast majority of lynchings that occurred in India were NOT black.
etc.
January 11th, 2008 9:06 PM
Why do so many people assume that lynching implies that a black person is being lynched?
Was I the only one that watched the Westerns that had cowboys getting lynched all the time?
Joking about somebody being lynched isn't funny but certainly isn't racist.
At least Tiger doesn't think so.
January 11th, 2008 6:08 PM
Well I'm picturing Kelly Tilghman hanging off a tree by her thin neck... yeah you're soo right! That's is hilarious! *sarcasm*
I seriously fear people who compare real life with tv westerns they grew up watching... /shudders
January 11th, 2008 6:04 PM
I agree with Al Sharpton and critics of her remarks for this reason: As a journalist, l can tell you that all professional journalists are taught to be keenly aware of the language we use.
Our main tool is language and we know many can be offended by what we say. I don't feel sorry for a professional who looses a job for not knowing that it is a direct racist remark to say a black man should be "lynched in the alley." I don't feel sorry for a well-paid journalist who doesn't have an adequate vocabulary (I mean, we're talking about "lynch" and basic American history here!) and understanding of sensitive and racist/sexist/homophobic remarks.
Terms like "libel" and "slander" exist for a reason. Journalists are held to a higher standard; what we say has meaning to our audience.
I'm sad to see so many people feel sorry for this woman (though, knowing this country, I'm not surprised).
If she knew the meaning she was wrong and should be fired; if she didn't, she's not on top of her game and should be fired, too.
January 11th, 2008 4:14 PM
I'm sitting here reading all these opinions. For the most part, they seem to be well thought out with some valid points. One of you said that not being brought up in an environment of prejudice against them can make us insenstitive to such things - true enough. My question though is, if something is truly and honestly said without any malice intended, why should a carreer that has been hard worked be brought to jeopardy over a comment that, although could be mistaken for racism, but in itself is not.
I've watched plenty of westerns growing up where the sherrif runs into the jail area and says to the deputy "we have to hold off the lynch mob outside". Not one of the party talked about was black. I'll be honest, I could have made the same mistake as Kelly if I were in her shoes. I'm an over 40 white male. It never in my wildest dreams occurred to me that "lynch" was a racist statement. My ignorance I guess but I could see me saying that in front of a black friend purly ignorant of any racist implications.
As far as Kelly is concerned, I'm an avid golfer and sports enthusiast in general. I'm also a big Kelly fan. I saw what Tiger said regarding it - no big deal, let it go. I heard Michael Wilbon from PTI and Mike Tirico on his sports radio program basically say the same things. They are both black men, highly regarded in their field and personal friends of Kelly. In their minds, although an unfortunate use of words, fully know in their heart there was no racisim intended. Kelly is a classy woman - a pioneer in broadcasting as a woman , just as Tiger is as a black man in golf. Let's quit being so sensitive. Al Sharpton sees this as a way to keep his face in the forefront. There are so many other real problems he could be helping.
The bottom line, racism exists - just not in this case.
January 11th, 2008 3:35 PM
I am a black female and I just have this simple observation. Kelly suggested that Tiger be taken in an alley to be lynched. I really don't care about the racial implications, the whole AL Sharpton thing is what it is. My big concern is that it was ok for her to suggest that someone be killed in order for other golfers to have a chance. I know it was said in jest, but has anyone ever consider some psycho may have heard the comment and taken it as an option. She may not be racist, but there are many racist out there who think that golf is and always should be a white man's sport. Someone who thinks that Tiger should not maintan the success that he has. I have personally heard several white men mention that Tiger Woods shouldn't have the fame that he has and the money that he makes. They commented on how if it were the good old days he would be out shining someone shoes instead of ruining the game of golf. So while many of you feel that she should be forgiven for her comments based on it not being racist; should she be forgiven for her comments that incite violence towards another person. In jest or not it was wrong. Other words could have been used to follow Faldos comments.
January 11th, 2008 2:38 PM
Bryant, do yourself a big favor, and view what was actually said before passing judgement. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bim-EPwhGt0
Ideally, you'd be able to hear what the whole conversation was about, but CNN only aired enough of it to serve their needs. Still, it's better than nothing.
Could she be a "closet racist?" Sure. Anything's possible. And if that's the case, she doesn't belong behind the microphone of ANY network But allow me to ask you this: After meeting someone for the first time, about how long would you say it takes you to figure out they're a racist (if they are one?)
OK, let's assume Tiger Woods (her friend of the last 12 years) isn't quite as perceptive as you are, and she's been able to pull the wool over his eyes. However, her employer is an entirely different matter. They live and die by their ability to evaluate on-air talent. Before they fill ANY announcer position, candidates' backgrounds are scrutinized as much as any political candidate. But this wasn't just ANY appointment; it was an industry first. If anything, she probably had several EXTRA hoops to jump through before landing the job. MY guess is, she's no racist.
As Mr. Moore alluded to, we are the product of our upbringing. We aren't born with an understanding of what prejudice is; it's something that's learned. Some children learn that it's OK to discriminate, and others are taught that they'll always be discriminated against. And the concept is passed down, from one generation to the next, like a vendetta. The way to stop it, is to stop teaching it.
This week, millions of youngsters have learned they should be offended by the word "lynch," and millions more have learned it can be used to offend. Well done, CNN, Rev. Sharpton, et al!
January 11th, 2008 12:40 PM
If she was a toddler who overheard the word and used it, I could understand, but she deliberately chose an ugly loaded term. The fact is she likely used the expression with her friends...to white people the term lynch doesnt have a painful history, but that doesn't excuse her using it in a public forum. She should be held accountable for it, not fired but the suspension was valid. What you say on your personal time is one thing but on TV in a public forum...
As to the other poster: What will your "becoming a racist" entail. Will you begin to scrawl swastikas on chuches? Burn crosses on the lawn of black people who never did anything to you simply because they are black? Maybe you will get 5-10 of your friends and lynch someone for having more melanin in their skin than you? I know I blew your comment out of proportion but I wanted you to know what being a racist ultimately means to me and how that is different from what you likely had in mind.
Racism is something only people never affected by it treat as a minor issue when it comes up. You are white, racism doesn't factor into your life, we get it. Most people here probably took terrorism as a minor middle eastern problem until it happened here on 911.
Its human nature to downplay or ignore things that are not important to us, but don't assume your point of view is the only point of view or that taking things in stride would prevent elements in this society from being racist. Granted you might get tired of hearing "the race" card, but I get tired of hearing about police shooting guys reaching for their wallets, or people being dragged down the street by trucks, or set on fire, and the like because their black...its a different sort of race-card altogether. I'd be just as happy to never see headlines about either sort of race card.
I get where everyone is coming from but what people are not getting is that there is always going to be a different effect based on the individual.
January 11th, 2008 9:31 AM
Being an African-American male and a huge Kelly fan, I'm truly perplexed with the comment. Is she a racist, not sure...i've heard it was a slip, so does that make it ok that she slipped on National Television. If she slipped, that's even worse. I'm more disappointed than anything..having friends of different cultures, I might be slightly insulted by the comments because at that moment its not a slip, she said it and at that moment meant it.
January 11th, 2008 4:19 AM
It is sad when professional announcers tend to stray from their profession at hand and that is being professional while on the air. Kelly Tilghman allowed herself to fall into the proverbial trap of allowing herself to think that she was having a private tete-a-tete with her partner and lost control of her mouth. All sports announcers do it every time they step up to the microphone.
I for one have liked Ms.Kelly Tilghman since the first time I saw her on the Golf Channel and I personally don't want to see her release from her job. I don't fully blame her, but I do blame her childhood environment. "You can take a person out of their country, but you can't take the country out of the person." The comment was made about Tiger but when you go nationwide it becomes public. These comments are overseas.
Mr. Woods receives snide remarks every time he steps on to any American golf course and now he is getting it from the Golf Channel. He is walking the course with his head spinning like a red hazardous light.
Mr. John Kelaman I agree with you in part but I disagree with your analogy about growing up in the 50's and 60's because if you think about it again you will recall that racial prejudice is still prevalent today. Prejudices will continue for light-years to come.
Prejudice toward Black Americans will never cease. Not in your life time, mine, Al Sharpton, Tiger's, Kelly's and definitely not a new-born 2008.
When has any person, of any nationality, recall hearing that Jack Nicklaus should be lynched? Arnold Palmer? Babe Ruth? Wayne Gretzky? Roy Roger? Fox announcer Steve Lyons? How about Jackie Robinson? Hank Aaron? Mohammed Ali? Oh, yeah, John Kelaman?
If Ms Tilghman remains on staff with Golf Channel or not, does anyone think she should be considered for Hall of Fame announcer?
Of all people why did it have to come out of her mouth?
John Moore 1/11/08 1:20AM
January 10th, 2008 10:33 PM
Thank you, John Kelahan, for your insightful and thoughtful comments. I completely agree with you. This "incident", and the consequent furor of impassioned responses, serve only to highlight how pathetic and shallow is the mindset of those so easily offended. Kelly Tilghman's comment
was meant as a joke - as harmless banter between friends. Is that so hard to understand? No offense was intended, and none was taken by the object of same. Can people really be so humorless as to take Ms. Tilghman's comment literally? Sadly, perhaps I've answered my own question. To everyone who is offended: perhaps a little introspection is in order. Maybe you will find the real reasons for your misdirected anger and your guilt. Do us all a favor, and, as the Eagles so eloquently said, get over it! For the record, I think Ms. Tilghman does a fine job and is very professional (especially for a Dookie! Gasp!!). I also enjoy Nick, and have nothing but admiration for Tiger Woods and his accomplishments, both on and off the course. Now - it's time to move on. Shall we?
January 10th, 2008 9:48 PM
From one "Cracker" to the world...........lighten up on the race card. I'm not a racist, but I'm about to become one due to all the wanking done by those of you who keep playing the card. And as for Sharpton?? what an embarassment for all mankind.. Please Al, crawl back in the hole you came from..........
January 10th, 2008 9:28 PM
Based on some of the remarks being posted here, I can only assume that many of the posters are not golf fans.
At this time, everyone even remotely connected to professional golf is riding a gravy train of unprecedented proportions. The person driving that train is Tiger Woods. There is NOBODY who wants to see anything happen to him. That includes Kelly Tilghman, Nick Faldo, and everyone who competes against him.
Now do you understand how ridiculous this whole thing is?
January 10th, 2008 9:01 PM
Most of the reaction is coming from people who've been stirred up by media reports, and by Rev. Sharpton. Anyone who has taken the time to view the actual broadcast has come away with a far different reaction.
Here were two golf commentators - Ms. Tilghman and Nick Faldo - talking about Tiger in very complimentary terms. Nick suggested that the only way to beat Tiger would be for some of the younger golfers to gang up on him, and almost by way of finishing Faldo's sentence (if not his thought,) Tilghman uttered the phrase, "lynch him in the back alley." The two were chucking and smiling, and it was pretty obvious they were just filling airtime. If we could have contacted each of the hundreds of viewers immediately after the show aired, it's very likely most of them would have even been unable to recall that particular exchange. But it only takes one, and if that person also has Rev. Sharpton on speed-dial, that's all it takes to give the story legs.
Did Tiger take offense with her comments? No. As a matter of fact, Tilghman is a friend of his. The bottom line is, the media knows that headlines like this sell newspapers, and fills airtime. Their stock in trade is taking snippets out of context, and turning them into stories. Every once in a while, they even target one of their own. (Don't think there aren't at least a few athletes, actors, and politicians out there, muttering something about "poetic justice!) They have absolutely no shame.
Reverend Sharpton, my dictionary states that to lynch someone, is to execute them without due process of law. It even goes so far as to state the term most often refers to execution by hanging. Try as I might, though, I could not find a dictionary definition listing a connotation referring to the race, color, religion, nationality, gender, or sexual orientation of the person being executed. Are you suggesting that the only proper usage of the word, is when one is referring to the execution of someone of a specific color? With all due respect, don't you think that's just a bit presumptive on your part?
Rev. Sharpton, you and I are the same age, a generation removed from both Tiger Woods and Kelly Tilghman. When we were growing up, women and African-Americans were unquestionably treated as second-class citizens. But we're not living in the 50's and 60's any more. Tiger Woods is, without question, the most succesful athlete in America, and probably the most widely recognized and respected man on the planet. Kelly Tilghman is the first woman to ever be hired as a fulltime golf play-by-play announcer. I'd say our country's come a long way since we were kids, wouldn't you?. Now you're calling for this woman to lose her job over an idle remark that was never intended to offend anyone.
You know how we'll be able to tell when we've achieved true equality? No, it won't be when Obama or Clinton is elected president; it'll be when headlines like "Anchor Says Players Should Lynch Tiger" are no longer considered newsworthy. But until that time comes, it would sure remove some of the guesswork if you could just compile a list of words and terms that some African-Americans could possibly consider offensive, and distribute it to anyone and everyone whose job involves being close to a microphone. You know what they say: An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
January 10th, 2008 8:13 PM
I do not think she meant it as racism..just an off the cuff remark.