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April 21st, 2008 9:05 AM
Sorry. I don't buy that people can be happy with the skin they are in if that skin is holding in excess blubber that puts a strain on their joints, heart and muscles. The truth is that people who are really fat have a hard time because it's difficult to look good, feel good or (and I'm sorry to say this) even smell good. Have you ever sat beside a fat person in the summer? They sweat more and it is very hard for the really big ones to keep up with their personal cleanliness and hygiene. There are a lot of reasons to keep your weight down and absolutely no reason to be proud of being too large. Instead of sitting around eating ice cream and watching CSI, get out and exercise!
April 21st, 2008 11:30 AM
Brandy, it sounds to me like you are not happy in your skin. Must be causing you alot of problems in life since it looks like you have nothing better to do than to sit on here spread alot of b.s.! That is your right not to like overweight people, but come on, the way that you are talking about them is like how the KKK, skin heads, ect, ect, ect sit back and talk about blacks, jews, anyone that is not white. That is just another form of racism that you are spreading and that is really sad!
April 21st, 2008 4:02 PM
WOW, Very well put Cindy!
April 21st, 2008 4:04 PM
Oh, and by the way Brandy, yes I have been around some overweight people that didn't smell to clean, just as I have been around smaller people who didn't smell very clean. That has nothing to do with weight, that has to do with bathing!!
April 22nd, 2008 7:36 AM
It's not a matter of overweight people not trying to keep clean. It's a matter of them not being able to. They sweat more and it's hard for some of them to thoroughly wash between all those rolls and folds.
And comparing blacks and fat people is an insult to blacks. Black people have a right to be proud and a right to be defensive over the way they are treated. Fat people don't, because they aren't born fat but get fat through a series of poor choices and lazy, gluttonous behaviors. If a fat person can't figure that out they are fat AND stupid. Again, sitting around eating and watching CSI will do that to you. Also, the color of one's skin doesn't cause someone to take up two seats on the bus and smell the place up by sweating and farting all while. I take the subway to and from work and know what I'm talking about. It is GROSS. And that is not being mean, it is simply a fact of life. If that offends you it is because you recognize yourself in the description, Cindy. Maybe you are happy in that skin but you are grossing the rest of us out, sister.
About being happy in my own skin, I am thank you. And it's because I respect it enough to keep myself healthy.
Oh, and because I do my skin is a lot easier to clean.
It seems to me that the fat person/people here who are investing time an energy in throwing a tantrum would be better served getting some nutritional counseling or maybe taking a walk.
April 22nd, 2008 12:34 PM
I've seen worse than Keely and have dated a few plus size girls but they didn't have a shape like Keely still does. Still Keely should lose weight and I feel sorry for her husband. Dating a heavy girl is one thing. But I wouldn't want to settle down with one and don't think she would have caught her husband's eye if she'd looked like that when they met. That gal that said it's about being happy in your skin is missing the point. If you're happy being fat then it means you really don't care as much about yourself as you should. That's the problem with marrying somebody who's overweight. If they're happy being unhealthy they'll be happy if they're spouse or kids are unhealthy just as long as there are snacks in the pantry. That's not the kind of woman I'm looking for.
April 23rd, 2008 12:50 AM
Thats right Brandy, keep on spreading your hate and racisim. Let me tell you, I am black so you can not preach nothing to me about the color of my skin and about being proud because you do not know nothing about it. So when it comes to that, you really should keep your mouth shut! And face the facs here, yes, that is a form of racisim that you have and are spreading. If telling yourself that it's not get you thru, then go right on ahead. That just goes to show your stupidity is worse than what we all thought. So, just keep living in your little bubble and thinking what you want. Cause when it comes down to it, you have no clue!
April 25th, 2008 9:51 AM
Cindy, you must be a sock puppet for another identity because clearly you are grasping at straws by making such a stupid comment.
How is criticizing obesity the same thing as racism? Are you trying to say that all black people are fat? Or that black people can't control their eating habits? The fat, smelly people I encountered on the train were not fat, by the way. So how can you infer racism from my comment?
If you're going to make such a statement, you should be able to back it up. Of course, if you are really just an angry, fat, lonely white woman who spends her time watching CSI and eating then I can understand if you can't explain it.
But please do try.
April 27th, 2008 5:58 PM
OMG.. talk about someone grasping at straws you racist pig! Don't try to put your filthy racism on anyone but yourself. Trying to twist words, putting words in someones mouth that was never even said ot even thought of. What a sick twisted mind you have. May God have mercy on your soul!
April 28th, 2008 12:23 PM
I used to be a fat person and I do believe that there´s a lot of discrimination (i believe that´s what you meant cindy, but since there´s such rude people here they misinterpreted your words) towards overweight people and it doesn´t make things any easier. it's hard to deal with with the fact that you are not happy with the way you look, but all the criticism makes you go to your only friend: food. i´m not saying that being overweight is ok, but i don´t think that the dirty looks and hurtful words will help. it´s time to be nice to this people, we don't know their situation and they deserve respect and also IF THEY WANT TO our HELP!!.
to all big gorgeous girls out there i suggest not impose you to lose weight, in my case it has made things a lot easier and it´s an awesome confidence booster; but i also say if you are alright the way you are, keep your head up and don´t mind some of the vicious comments made here.
April 28th, 2008 2:23 PM
I think Brandi is really Victoria! OMG! She's doing what she's accused us of all doing, changing her name. What a twat!
April 29th, 2008 11:59 AM
Cindy, you still didn't address my question. How is criticizing obesity the same thing as being racist? Did you not answer because you really don't know or because you really are just a fat, lonely white girl sitting home alone watching CSI?
And Alice, I hate to tell you this but there is no such thing as a big gorgeous girl, only unhappy fat women who discourage others from losing weight because misery loves company.
April 29th, 2008 2:21 PM
Jenny, do I know you? Who the hell is Victoria? Not that it matters really. I'm still waiting for an answer to my question from Cindy provided she's capable of actually giving one.
April 29th, 2008 2:21 PM
Jenny, do I know you? Who the hell is Victoria? Not that it matters really. I'm still waiting for an answer to my question from Cindy provided she's capable of actually giving one.
April 29th, 2008 3:14 PM
Your right Jenny, she is a twat. A racist twat. She is to stupid to see or to understand when she has been told time and time again that it is a form of racism. But that is just her way of trying to get the spot light off of her. That is what the racist pigs of this world do. Just like the KKK, they wear sheets over their heads because they are to ignorant to show their faces. That is what Victoria/Brandy is doing, she is sitting back hiding behind her computer making her racist comments about overweight people. I am sure when she is out in the real world she is smiling and acting all nice to overweight people. I myself KNOW that I am a beautiful black woman, no I am not skinny, but I am also not overweight. And I have better things to do in my time aside from sitting here arguing with this racist pig. She can sit here all she wants and make her comments about overweight people because in the end, it is going to come back on her. My advice to you Victoria/Brandy, keep on making your racist comments because YOU AND ONLY YOU will have to be the one that has to pay for it. And trust me when I say, you will pay someday.
April 29th, 2008 3:19 PM
Oh, and let me just explain this one more time to you. Racism can come in many different ways and forms. Just as racism towards someone of color, religion, or anything that they are. Someone that sits back and makes rude comments, calls names, puts down or tries to degrade, that is racism. Do you fit that......... You sure do!! So just face the facts, you are a racist pig. If you are going to be one, atleast own up to it. Don't sit back and try to convince yourself that your not because the facts have shown that you are.
April 29th, 2008 5:00 PM
oh come on Brandy!!!!!!. you shouldn´t be so mean, making rude comments about overweight people is not going to help anyone!!!!!. stop hating everyone!!! oh and one thing, when i was big I ALWAYS FELT GORGEOUS!!!!!!!!
April 30th, 2008 9:46 PM
A year ago I weighed 240 pounds. I slimmed down to 165 after joining Weight Watchers. It wasn't easy but I'm glad I did it. My cholesterol and my blood pressure are now within the normal range and for the first time in years I have the confidence to get out of the house. As an older gay man in a youth-oriented climate I was already feeling like I'd never find a partner. At least now I feel like I have a chance
I don't understand the argument that obesity is the same thing as racism. As a gay man who used to be fat, I didn't consider people who told me I had to lose weight as being homophobic.
Bottom line is this. When you stand in front of the mirror do you love your body or hate it? That's only something an individual can answer. The reality is in the mirror no matter what we right. The mirror doesn't lie to us even if we lie to ourselves.
Rather than bickering who doesn't everyone involved just look in the mirror and ask: Are the people I'm fighting with the enemy. Or is the enemy reflected in the glass?
April 30th, 2008 9:50 PM
Its late and I made a couple of typos. Sorry. I should have said the reality is in he mirror no matter what we WRITE. And also that rather than bickering WHY doesn't everyone just look in the mirror and ask whether the people they are fighting are really the enemy.
I really shouldn't try to type without my glasses. I do hope my words will make someone think though.
God Bless.
May 1st, 2008 8:08 AM
OK. I read back through all the comments and have a good idea of what is going on here and why Cindy thought I was Victoria.
Because I don't want to inflame Cindy any further I'm not going to fully voice my suspicions about other identities. I'll only say that while Victoria was clearly poking a pig with a stick she was right about one thing. There's no use arguing with someone who is clearly so unbalanced.
I'm sure Cindy will continue to post responses from and to herself but that is OK with me. I think she's probably the only real friend she has.
And thank you Craig, for your voice of reason in all this. You are exactly right. When we look in the mirror we know the truth. Don't we, Cindy?
Outta here...
May 1st, 2008 8:57 AM
LOL, well it is clear to see. Brandy must be Victoria. She is accusing everyone as to being 1 person due to people disagreeing with her. Oh, how funny. I personally think that the racist pig finally understood the fact that she is a racist. Craig, I have to ask this, I am alittle confused about your remark that you didn't consider people that told you to loose weight as being homophobic. That doesn't even make a lick of sense. Your weight has NOTHING to do with you sexually lifestyle. That was just silly to even state that comment. Not trying to be mean, but it was since they have nothing to do with the other. There are millions of straight people that are over weight. But I must say that I do agree with your comment about people looking in the mirror. That is what I was trying to state and I pretty much got that was what everyone else has been trying to state. It only matters how you feel about yourself, NOT what anyone else thinks about you!
May 1st, 2008 11:36 AM
Cindy honey I said that because just as criticism of weight has nothing to with being homophobic it has nothing to do with being racist. I didn't think your claim made a lick of sense either but was trying to be polite to get you to see the point that weight is unrelated to race, sexual orientation or gender. Just like you said being heavy had nothing to do with my sexual lifestyle it has nothing to do with your race. I know plenty of thin people who are black, white, yellow, gay, straight, yada yada yada...I think that is what Brandy was trying to tell you but you are so angry you can't see it. Hon, take a deep breath and calm down. If somebody believes being fat is unhealthy it means they are simply critical of weight, not the heavy person's gender, race or sexual orientation. I don't know how big you are but if I saw you and said you needed to lose weight would you tell me I was sexist? I kind of doubt it because I'm not saying you've got a problem as a woman but as an overweight person. Now granted I don't know you and keep in mind I'm just making a point.
Anyway I've got to go because my phone is ringing. I hope everybody will calm down and do what they need to do to get healthy. Like I said, if you're not happy with your body the enemy is not the person you are mad at here. It's the person in the mirror. Think about it honey.
May 1st, 2008 11:43 AM
OK. Not important call. LOL. One more thing. And don't go off on me please. But if the reflection in the mirror is not a healthy one. If you are overweight then no I don't believe you are truly happy with yourself. When I was fat I lied to myself and to everyone else that I was OK with my body. But you can't feel or look your best when you're fat. It effects everything. You will be amazed at how much better life is when you are in shape. If you look in the mirror and are happy seeing a fat person looking back at you that is self-hatred, not self love honey. Your body is your temple and if you are happy seeing it being destroyed then you've got issues that are heavier than the spare tire. A lot of self-work is involved in becoming brave enough to take control of your life but it has to be done. Lying to yourself and other people about who you are or how happy you are does more damage to you than the words of the people you are arguing with.
May 1st, 2008 8:33 PM
Craig, a word to the wise: Give it up. There is NO helping someone like this Cindy person. There is even less use trying to be nice to her or trying to be her friend.
May 2nd, 2008 9:18 AM
I disagree Brandy. I believe in reaching out to people who are so obviously hurting. I know it helped me when I was overweight and in denial.