They both introduced new characters, they were both heavily promoted... and they both tanked in the ratings.
American Idol and Duck Dynasty returned to the airwaves last night, but the returns weren't especially triumphant.
Idol, for example, garnered 15 million total viewers, but only a 4.5 rating among 18-49-year olds, which set a record low for the series. This, despite America falling in love with Harry Connick, Jr.
Duck Dynasty Season 5, meanwhile, introduced viewers to Rebecca Robertson.
But the opener was down 3.5 million total households from its Season 4 premiere a year ago. Among the aforementioned key demographic, ratings fell by 33 percent.
Could fans have been turned off by the Phil Robertson controversy? It's possible.
Watch Duck Dynasty online now if you failed to catch either of the return episodes last night.