I love the amount of arguments based on one of the statements: "you're retarded" or "you're a dumbass". I never knew insults could be used to prove or disprove anything. How about coming up with some sort of evidence or reasoning that backs up your point (it would be easier if you came up with a point in the first place), instead of just throwing insults around and revealing your ignorance. Now with that out of the way, back to the topic at hand. There is evidence both for and against the conspiracy theory. In my opinion it was set up by the government, but I would be willing to accept it as a random act of terrorism if someone presented me with enough evidence. Unfortunately for my faith in the government, no one has managed to come close to the growing body of evidence against the official story. 1) the backpacks worn by the suspects were not the same colour as those used in the bombs, and in fact one of the suspects is photographed running from the site, STILL HOLDING HIS BAG. 2) the whole thing about fake injuries and stuff (too lazy to go into detail). 3) one of the suspects was arrested and put in the back of a cruiser, alive and well, before turning up dead. 4) the government's reaction was way over the top and even a little fishy (I think someone has mentioned already that they're trying to get us used to military lock downs) 5) the only living suspect conveniently has an injury that prevents him from talking. 6) some have been trying to get him tried before a military tribunal (denying him many rights to defend himself). 7) it distracted everyone while CISPA was being passed by the house of representatives without so much as a footnote in the news (remember all the press coverage it got last year? I live in Canada and that's still all we heard about for a week). 8) The government has been passing laws that limit your liberties for years now. did you know that the government can take control over the country's food, water, and power supplies? all Obama has to do is declare a state of emergency (Hitler assumed power partly through procedures intended to be used only in emergencies). And if Obama declares you an "enemy of the state" (a term used in Nazi Germany as well as the USSR), all your liberties and rights are immediately stripped; you can be indefinitely detained, tortured and assassinated, without a trial or even a cause. 9) What's a couple of bombs at a marathon to a government that has already proven themselves willing to commit heinous crimes against their own people? (see 9/11).
But how do you come up with evidence that proves them wrong when the evidence that proves them wrong is what they're using to make their arguments.
It's like having a photo of a bird and saying "look. A bird." to which another person says "there's no bird in that picture. That's just empty space in that picture".
How do you respond to that kind of blind nonsense!? "Um it's right there. Is this some kind of abstract philosophy or extreme literalism thing?".
You say the guy had his bag in that picture, I look at it and compare to earlier pics and it's clear as day to me that the bag is gone!
Is it really so strange to call a person an idiot when they appear incapable or unwilling to see what is abundantly obvious to you when looking at the same evidence?
This whole Boston conspiracy that's popped up is full blown demented. It beggers belief that these people can be so deluded and blind as to think they're onto something. We can see the same fricking evidence!
This is one of those times where the conspiracy theorist adage "Open your eyes!" is rather ironic.
They ARE being idiots
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I think the "real" conspiracy is that video and the person who made it. Let me state, I live in Canada, so I am not bias for or against the current politics. I am a 3rd year medical student and I am afraid you will just have to be the judge of me and what I can tell you.
Point one in the video is bomb sniffing dogs. We have those too at every major hockey or sports event I attend. The man interviewed asked a bomb squad about it, and of course they lied a bit. Think about it, are you going to tell the average Joe that you are there in case there is bomb. You may just as well yell FIRE in a movie house.
Point 2 is just as dumb as point 1 of course you have security at a major sports event. I fail to see them as military since they are just plain clothes.
Point 3 is long and drawn out. But he shows an image of a man obviously in shock from his trauma. No ambulances are not allowed to approach the blast area since there could be more bombs. Read up on shock and trauma and you will understand that a person's body shuts down and ignores pain thinking this couldn't be real.
At 8:18 that message seals this as a "misinformation video" using a psychological ploy to say the maker is only questioning the event. Also tosses out the God Bless to make it all Christian charity when we don't know this person. Heck for all you know I could have spliced this video together.
If you stay to the very end he finishes of with the NWO logo "OBEY" and another anti-political frame something against your President. That about says it all, don't you know?
Second guessing the victims as actors?, that's not the actual conspiracy behind it all. Unbelievable information over here...
Marcus they probally are children maybe not 8 but children, just look at the play of words most of them have. They wouldnt know how to present a true intellectual argument and have no evidence except the media said so. I mean really Ben Dover come on.
There are simply too many anomalies that require explanation, including the very fundamentals in charging said two 'suspects', and therefore the onus is on the authorities. If they choose not to come forward, and if so, cannot prove beyond reasonable doubt (which exists) than I'm sorry but belief that it wasn't a hoax is just irrational. Unfortunately the same problems exist regarding so-called terrorist attacks in the past, and as we all know an official story as no avenue to appeal. So I think the statement "wake up" is quite appropriate.
You sir.... Are retarded
Good rebuttal Ben
Tremendous stupidity. Please, don't call them 'skeptics'. They are not skeptics. They are conspiracists and truth-seekers. They are believers. Conspiracy is their religion.
Someone should explain why the flir video of the guy hiding in a boat clearly shows large caliber gun fire from the helicopter shredding the guy ...... one report claims it shows a flash grenade ..... yet oddly there is no heat signature from an explosion. Bet he dies in the hospital after he confesses.
He's still alive dumbass
You know how can tell conspiracy theorists have no merit: they resort to the same things. They resort to insults with the stand "You need to wake up..." without providing any actual credible evidence. They say the evidence is overwhelming, but if you actually look at their "evidence" it really isn't that overwhelming. Get over it. There is no conspiracy. There is no New World Order. Now in the words of Lin Manuel Miranda "Shut up, go home and pull your damn pants up."
He's still alive dumbass
There's another one!!! Replies with "blah, blah, blah, dumbass."
I stand next to those who are suffering, crying in pain, I salute those who died and those injured while you sit there and say the coffins are "empty" and the hospital beds are not stained with their blood I say I'm sorry for your loss and you shrug your shoulders and say its all fake
Finally someone who makes sense
They wanted to get us to accept Police State Lock Downs, door to door searches, (with no warrants), and police abuse during these searches. And to thank them for doing so. They succeeded. America land of the free has been dead for years. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.
I totally was thinking the same thing. It's just a huge test to see how stupid we really are. What the hell happened to this country. Then again, when hasn't it been a lie
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