Texas Secession Petition Garners 81,000 Signatures, Qualifies For White House Response

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Everything's bigger in Texas. That apparently includes secession petitions.

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    Throw Texas out of the US. Sign the petition.
    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/eject-state-texas-union/8lglX8nb

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    @ Lilolebob

    GFY Bob. Oh wait...double entendre lmao. But still.....GFY.

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    Stop being a bunch of whiney babies. We survived 4 extra years of Bush, we'll survive an extra 4 years of Obama. If any state in the union wants to secede do they realize that they will need to have their own gov't and military. Texas has a good shot at that because of its size and economy but don't expect the union to come to the rescue when Mexico tries to take it back. In other words...Get over it and move on.

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    To Texas: Good luck, good bye, and good riddance. Hope it passes.

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    @ Rebs

    You do realize that Texas isn't the only state trying to secede, right? Or is it that you personally have something against Texas?

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    @ Kellie M

    I say good luck, and goodbye to every state that wants to secede, but - mostly Texas. That includes the State I live in (Indiana). I'll move back to Wisconsin, even if my home state was daft enough to re-elect Scott Walker.

    Really, the threat to Secede makes about as much sense as threatening to go to Canada. Please, please, tell me I'm not the only one who sees the poetic justice to this entire thing. I need to write a Novel, and not my sci-fi fantasy, I need to write something about the world we live in today....

    Maybe I'll do that...

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    Will Obama use NDAA To Arrest State Representatives and Citizens that support Secession?

    Could Obama use NDAA To Arrest Secessionists on the Premise members are Militants and Belligerents that pose a threat to National Security?

    Recently the Obama administration stated to Federal Judge Katherine Forest that under (NDAA) The National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 the President had authorization to lock up belligerents indefinitely. That they (were justified) to lock belligerents up indefinitely—because cases involving belligerents directly-aligned with militants against the good of America—warrants such punishment.) Pres. Obama could use NDAA provisions to order U.S. Military Forces to round up without evidence, millions of Americans including Secessionists and Militias by alleging they are belligerents or a threat to National Security. Many observers believe Obama intends to extend NDAA to imprison U.S. Citizens in Indefinite Detention not involved with or associated with enemy forces.

    Hitler included similar provisions in his fascist (Discriminatory Decrees signed February 28, 1933). Almost immediately after the German Parliament passed Hitler’s laws, the Reich Government ordered the arrest of German Citizens and confiscated their guns without probable cause or evidence; delegated powers to German Police and other authorities to arrest anyone Nazi authorities claimed attempted or incited public unrest: arrested among others were outspoken Germans, writers, journalists, peaceful protestors and artists. After World War II the East German Secret Police (Stasi) used the threat of Indefinite Detention to forcibly recruit thousands of informants.

    The U.S. 2012 NDAA legislation Obama signed 12-31-11 is similar to Hitler’s 1933 fascist laws the SS and Gestapo used to target persons in Germany for arrest, imprisonment and execution without probable cause; and confiscate millions of dollars of property. Hitler used his laws to suspend Parliament and the Supreme Court insuring his laws could not be rescinded.

    During the Obama Administration's recent request for a (stay) to stop U.S. District Judge Katherine Forrest blocking enforcement of vague NDAA provisions, the Obama Administration—never clarified what constitutes a (belligerent); or militant; or what belligerent activities (directly aligned with a militant) to order a belligerent’s arrest or indefinite detention; or what is against the good of America. Under vague provisions of NDAA, the President could accuse anyone of being (directly aligned with militants by way of any political or other association; activity, statement, writing or communication with an individual or group government deemed (militant) to arrest and indefinitely detain Americans. Writers, journalists, Americans that disagree with or question U.S. Government or its allies—may under NDAA be subject to arrest and indefinite detention.

    NDAA 2012, like Hitler’s 1933 Discriminatory Decrees enforces censorship; refers to the Patriot Act e.g. warrant-less searches of private property and forfeiture of property from persons not charged with crime. Provisions in NDAA 2012 keep the door open for corrupt U.S. police; government agents and provocateurs which there are many, to falsify reports and statements to target any American, group or organization for arrest, indefinite detention, complete disappearance; civil asset forfeiture of their property.

    You may have noted NDAA referred to the USA Patriot Act. The Patriot Act lends itself to Government / police corruption; the Federal Government may use secret witnesses and informants to cause arrests and civil asset forfeiture of Americans’ property. Witness(s) and informants may be paid up to 50% of assets forfeited. Federal Government under 18USC may use a mere preponderance of civil evidence, little more than hearsay to Civilly Forfeit Private Property. Under the Patriot Act innocent property owners may be barred by government knowing the evidence federal government uses to forfeit their property.

    Sections of NDAA 2012 are so broad, it appears U.S. Government or the President could (retroactively) deem an American’s past 1st Amendment activities prior to passage of 2012 NDAA—supported hostilities, terrorism or (Belligerents) to order the arrest and Indefinite Detention of any U.S. Citizen, writer, group or organization.

    Under NDAA 2012 it should be expected that indefinitely detained U.S. Citizens not involved in terrorism or hostile activities, not given Miranda Warnings when interrogated, not allowed legal counsel or habeas corpus may be prosecuted for non-terrorist (ordinary crimes) because of their (alleged admissions) while held in Indefinite Detention.

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    @ Rwolf

    You proved one thing...you know how to copy and paste.

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    @ Kellie M

    GFM?? I don't have to but I suspect you get plenty of practice. Is that the most intelligent response you could come up with? No wonder you voted for Roseanne Barr! Thanks again for helping Pres O. Poor thing, can't afford to leave the country? You are part of that 47% Romney referred to. You still should have voted for him given how much you object to my President. I can't get over how stupid you were. And are. Hahahaha! What a dope!

    Kellie-m
    @ Linda Sterling

    You seem to think you know it all. I never said I voted for Roseanne...you did. You also said I was a republican and you said I voted for Romney. You seriously need to stop. You are a know it all bully. Nothing more, nothing less. I only hope that you don't have kids because they don't need to be around the vitriolic BS you spew.

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    @ Kellie M

    Your posts seem to cite issues that lack relevance. Your party affiliation is not significant. The Republicans with you as an add on could not save the day. Your candidate LOST!! Pres O does not have to worry about reelection so he can hold the line on his agenda. Part of the resolution of the fiscal cliff" will be a more equitable tax rate for the rich which is long overdue and part of the mandate. Pres O will leave a great legacy which has already begun. I look forward to the great things he will do for the American people over the next four years. You have my sympathy that you can't afford to leave the country. Keep pushing for secession! Hahahaha!

    Kellie-m
    @ Linda Sterling

    My posts lack relevance but yours are so relevant right? You are an idiot. One of these days you will realize what an idiot you are. Once you realize how much of a God complex Obama has and the lack of leadership skills he possesses you will realize how much of a fool you were to fall for his charm. Charm is what got him the election both times...well that and the fact that he likes to rub butts with celebrities....and the fact that he is black. Yep I said it. The hip hop nation came out in droves to 'make history' no matter what his platform was. Speaking of platform...why is it he didn't tell anyone what his platform was until AFTER the election? I will say this one last time...Romney is not MY candidate. Just because I despise YOUR president does not make me a republican nor does it mean that I voted for Romney. BTW, I don't need or want your sympathy. If fact, I don't need a damn thing from you or anyone else...I do just fine no thanks to your president.

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    @ Kellie M

    Your posts seem to cite issues that lack relevance. Your party affiliation is not significant. The Republicans with you as an add on could not save the day. Your candidate LOST!! Pres O does not have to worry about reelection so he can hold the line on his agenda. Part of the resolution of the fiscal cliff" will be a more equitable tax rate for the rich which is long overdue and part of the mandate. Pres O will leave a great legacy which has already begun. I look forward to the great things he will do for the American people over the next four years. You have my sympathy that you can't afford to leave the country. Keep pushing for secession! Hahahaha!

    Kellie-m
    @ Linda Sterling

    GFY.

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    @ Linda Sterling

    You're the idiot! Who"d you vote for Roseann Barr??! Thanks you fool. Because you voted for someone who couldn't possibly win you helped Pres O! Thank you ever so. Really glad you were too dumb to figure that out. Did you seceed yet? Hahahaha! What a dummy!

    Kellie-m
    @ Linda Sterling

    What...you didn't think posting this comment once was enough? lmfao. Idiot.

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    @ Kellie M

    You call your state self sufficent but who the hell are you going to sell oil too when you secede??? You must be insane if you think you can keep selling it to American's and smoking crack if you believe you can sell it over seas. You will lose all that buisness that makes you so great because once you pull out you cannot keep functioning as a state. BTW the land you are sitting on is AMERICAN, as in it is belongs to the people in the union not out. You secede and Obama would be well within his rights to deport the lot of you, and exactly what army do you intend to fight back with, your police force? I know texans carry guns but not enough of them to defeat the US army. Now i know that Obama would never do that but if you all think he is such a evil man then you should be afraid he will. Stop griping and causing even more problems for the country, you republicans need to suck it the fuck up because you are the reason we are in this shit in the first place. Bush was throwing money around like it rained from the fucking sky and you didnt say anything becaue he is a white, southern, republican. Two wars on a credit card, look it up. You wanna fix the country? Then shut up and sit down at the table so we can figure out how.

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    @ reality check

    Why is it that you assume I am a republican? Just because I think Obama is a jackhole? Stop blaming Bush I mean damn. The debt was more than tripled AFTER Bush and has remained that high ever since. At the end of the next four years and the debt remains that high or even higher will you still be blaming Bush? Yep, because that is all you people know how to do. Neither Obummer or you people know how to accept accountability. Trust me when I tell you, if I could afford to pick up and move to Canada I would....gladly.

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    @ reality check

    Thank you!

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    @ Kellie M

    If your state is so self sufficient with your finite commodity then what are you waiting for? Go already! Our President got a 2nd term! Are margins and percentages relevant at this point? I think not but I spose that's all you got. Since no president can serve more than 2 terms pointing it out about Pres Obama is again irrelevant. I'm afraid you don't make a lot of sense. Neither did your candidate!

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    @ Linda Sterling

    My candidate? So you assume I am a republican huh? LMAO. You assume wrong...just like everyone else does, simply because I can't stand your president. Be sure to get on your knees when you worship your leader. He likes it that way.

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    FOX FOR POLAND! 2014 www.foxcenter.org

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    Let them all go! WHOOPEE more for us!! This is laughable!

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    @ patty

    Ohhhhh I get it- more food stamps for you! Lazy freaking bums.

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    I say let them go. I would love to see the look on their faces when their Medicare, SS, food stamps, welfare stops. And how sweet would it be to watch their infrasture fall apart. All Texas business would lose their government contracts. We could watch them quickly implode. Bless their hearts.

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    @ Sidney

    When we stop sending money to DC, we can use said money and distribute it ourselves. Oh .. and we also keep the change, thank you very much. So, yes, we would lose the so called "federal" goodies, but as a transition, the Republic of Texas can take care of this. And have money left over :). Thank you.

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    @ Sidney

    You dumbass- Texas is self sufficient! Federal funding- from who, the broke ass Government? California begs for power each year from Texas. Any asshole that voted for Obama is nothing less than a communist! Your mothers should slap the HORSESHIT out of you! Obama wants to tear this country down! He is meeting with the heads of CEO'S this week and telling them the screwing he is about to put to people! Now- there can be more layoffs! You people don't want to move up- you want everyone torn down to be like you! After that- then OBAMAS move forward plan takes off! Can you imagine voting for Obama with the thinking that you will get healthcare and to find out later you got layed off? What a group of idiots!

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    @ Issac

    You have a filthy mouth. It reflects your intelligence level and your angry frustration at your loss. Texas would NOT be self sufficient w/o federal subsidies. You were one of those who predicted a win for Romney. Well he was rejected and so were you. Be honest. That's why you're so angry isn't it? Well the good thing is you'll have 4 yrs to adjust. Keep your sedatives nearby. I think you'll need them.

    Kellie-m
    @ Linda Sterling

    It's funny how you didn't tell your liberal buddy up there about his filthy mouth or how it shows his lack of intellect...or is that only directed to people who don't support your president? Double standard much?

    Kellie-m
    @ Linda Sterling

    Did you forget that Texas is an oil state? We could be self sufficient with no problem. Why do you say Romney was rejected? The race wasn't as close as you are seeming to say. There is only one good thing about your president being elected...he can't run again after this 4 years, thank God for small favors.

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    you know, i am 42 yrs. old, and no matter what President was in office during my adult life, i have never been affected by it. not mentally, physically, or financially. I was laid off in 2011 after 10yrs at that place of employment, and my family and i were still able to visit Vegas 2x in one year, from Houston, but i love the fun Vegas offers. Well, I am still living, shopping, dining out, etc. so why are people down and bitching about the economy. I think it's how you want to blame others for your problems. Take responsibillty and enjoy life.. I love mine.. Stop the negativity, be positive and good things will happen for you. Go to Vegas and have fun..Cha-ching.

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    @ vegas,Baby

    The majority of the country, no matter which party they follow, can't afford to run to Vegas on a whim. The economy has affected most of us. Glad you weren't bothered by it.

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    Maybe it has something to do with the backdoor raping of the constitution. Or was everyone to focused of xbox and football to notice?

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    Why secede? You guys think this country is so f'cked up, try MOVING to another one! You buttholes WILL NOT be missed!

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    @ Kaydubya

    Hey idiot... They're asking to leave. What the hell do you think it means to secede? Moron...

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    @ Captain Obvious

    LMAO gotta love the morons. What's with the name Kaydubya...isn't that a play on George Bush's moniker? He is a Texan LMAO. smfh




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