There is a big difference between being young and dumb and being cruel and ensensitive. Raj had no right to do what he did. I hope they ship him back home. He is stinking up this counry.
I just think this was a very high strung kid! Which I guess comes with being a gay. Hormones or something. I pity this kid going to jail.
Thanks resident lawyer. People dont realise that this sentence is much harsher than a guy taping a girl who then committed suicide would get. Honestly, this is America. Everyone is responsible for their own life. IF YOU WASTE YOUR LIFE OR TAKE IT IN SUICIDE - THATS ON YOU!!!!!!!
Any gays here? Question: it would be hell 4 me to share a single room with a gal I couldnt fuck. i would def be checking her out & doesnt even matter if shes hot. its how we are built. i would never force her but i would be hitting on her 24/7.
is it the same for gays? and dont you think this type of housing i.e. gay & straight is uncomfortable for both parties?
@B: If he had committed the same actions against a straight roommate, he would still be guilty if invasion of privacy, but NOT of "bias intimidation" (which means doing the action because of a bias against another person due to race, gender, sexual orientation, etc.)
So essentially Ravi would have had a much lighter sentence if Clementi was a woman. Probably a fine under $2000.
Confused as to why he wouldn't get more time for all the other offenses? What he did is wrong on so many levels, had his" gay" roomate taped him having hetro sex would tyler have getten into trouble u bet! 30 days is bullshit, Im willing to bed that had the case not been widely watched thru the media, this d bag would have gotten more time!
He played a part. So did our homophobic society and Tyler's parents and the other Twitter followers who taunted him and whatever was going on chemically in Tyler's brain that made him depressed.
If a man breaks up with his girlfriend and is especially cruel about it, and she kills herself, does he go to jail? Of course not.
We're not responsible for other adults' actions and even if we are it would be impossible to single out one single causative action for a suicide. So I reiterrate - suicide is NOT rational. And as he was never charged with Tyler's death, nor should he have been. His sentence was based on his illegal spying and intimidation, and for that, the sentence was appropriate.
@Meg: I may not agree with crude manner in which some here state their case. They are however completely correct in their conclusion.
The crime was committed regardless of whether Tyler killed himself or not, so (unfortunately), legally speaking, Tyler's suicide is completely irrelevant to guilt and sentencing (but of course totally and tragically relevant to the real-world non-legal course of events). It's predictable then that people are going to feel that the punishment doesn't fit the *crime - the *crime being the loosely defined chain of events they imagine in their mind; but not the actual crime codified in state statute.
Dont be so emotional instead deal with the facts of this case on merit.
Meg wrote: This sends the message bullying is ok, and it isn't.
No it doesnt. If it was sending that message i.e that bullying is "okay" then he would be found innocent. He got 3 years probation, expelled from the school, a 12,000 dollar fine and 30 days in jail. Frankly thats more than harsh given the nature of the CRIME - taping someone unawares.
He broke some laws by videoing his roomie. That is all. I am made to believe that this crime usually only attracts a fine or probation. I say no to the thought police, and by the way that is FACISM not SOCIALISM. Read a book sometime people.
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