Jordan Scott Accuses Stephenie Meyer of Plagiarizing Breaking Dawn Comments (Page 3)
70 Comments
michela
August 5th, 2009 7:56 PM
omfgooooood...... Stephenie is INNOCENT!!!!!!!!! HONESTLY!!!! And if this "nocturne" book really exists, how come nobody knows about it??? Stephenie Meyer would have acknowledged the fact that she got her ideas from this other book! It's not like she's a liar or anything! Screw this Jordan Scott!!!!! >:(
Emily
August 5th, 2009 4:22 PM
I just want to second what Maren said. TMZ? If it was that important why did she go to TMZ
Kylee
August 5th, 2009 1:24 PM
ShArOnA - I agree with you 110 % who has heard of Jordan Scott before now?? I know me and my friends haven't !
August Lilly Twilight
August 5th, 2009 1:19 PM
Some one just tel that Jordan whatsher name that she is so going to lose and they can't even find the book! When this is over she is going to look like the biggest bitch there every was!
Jessica
August 5th, 2009 10:58 AM
o.O I agree with ShArOnA. Just forget about it; it's a bad publicity stunt that's going to work if people get all personal about it. There's not enough "similarities" for this to even be taken to court, it'd be laughed out.
They say no publicity is bad publicity, so it doesn't matter if it's in a negative light; look already at the people curious about the book enough to search what it's about. Just laugh it off and let it go :)
Chelsea
August 5th, 2009 2:01 AM
I've read both books and I think this is stupid. These claims are ridiculous.
* Both contain a post-wedding sex scene;
* Both depict a scene about a woman who's sick because she's carrying a child with "evil powers;"
* Both focus on the death of the main character's wife.
Thousands upon thousands of books contain a post-wedding sex scene. It's a very popular belief that people wait until they're married to have sex and plenty of books contain it. She has no right to call that plagiarism.
Even women carrying normal children can become very sick. And I'm sure neither Stephenie nor Jordan were the first to come up with a child with "evil powers" threatening the health of the mother.
Bella didn't die. Plain and simple.
These are both pretty great books. The problem is, more and more writers now a days are claiming being the first to come up with something when they flat out weren't. Do you know how many vampire romances are out there? I'm sure there are ple
Anyone who writes a book on a vampire love story would probably think the same. I think she is looking for fame and hoping we will all go and buy the book. So just ignore her and don't go buy it.
Spaz
August 4th, 2009 11:59 PM
When I typed in the name Jordan Scott, the very first hit I came across for the author was the link to this site/article. I've searched all of the major online bookstores and couldn't even find a used copy of the book. When I put in the ISBN # (which I got from Kyari's post), I only got three hits: this page, the page that Kyari posted from, and a link to a site called www.stanthecaddy.com which goes to a different site altogether. I can't even find the passages that were supposed to have been posted by Jordan Scott online except for on the www.stanthecaddy.com site.
I'm not saying that Ms. Meyer did or did not plagiarize from the other book but I do wonder about the timing of the accusations and whatnot.
I FUCKING KNEW IT
August 4th, 2009 11:17 PM
SMEYER IS A HACK!! THAT FAT BITCH!!
Joy
August 4th, 2009 11:12 PM
It does not exist! Her website was created in 2009(recently) and is convienintly sold out of The Nocturne. None of the other book selling stites have any record of that book. Not even the Library of Congress has record of it! It is all a hoax! The Nocturne is not an actual book!
Brittany Justice
August 4th, 2009 11:07 PM
Funny thing is - I'm an avid reader, not big on romance novels, and even less so on popular teen fiction. I totally dissed Twilight every time I walked into Barnes and Noble before reading it. Then one day, I picked it up and read the first chapter and was like "Yeah, okay. Maybe I could get into this, despite the typical teen vocabulary and dialogue."
A few weeks later, I was beyond interested. For anybody who is like "Blah blah blah Twilight is just teen bullshit for twelve year olds", if you can't get over the simple vocabulary and relate to the story on any emotional level, you've never been in a relationship and you were never a teenager. Or maybe you've just gotten so old and pretentious that you don't want to remember what it was like to be that age and very confused. It might be about vampires, it might be about wolves, it might include fictional elements you can't relate to. But if you can't find some kind of connection with how one of the characters feel, you're probably i
Rachel
August 4th, 2009 10:39 PM
This is sooooo stupid!! This makes all of us(Twilight fans)not want to read Scott's books! Who would after that false accusation? I don't see how that could be classified as plaigarizing.It seems to me that Mrs.Scott only wants attention that is directed towards her books. Well,I don't know about ya'll,but no way will I ever be reading any of Scott's books!!
Vanessa
August 4th, 2009 10:08 PM
I so agree with JeSs. Whoever this Scott person is...You Suck!!! Get a life. Your book sucks, okay. Get over it. I support Stephenie Meyer completely.
Pie
August 4th, 2009 9:48 PM
All of you for one need to learn to form sentences. The twilight series is an overated piece of trash. I am a writer/reader and honestly found the series a waste of paper, the poor trees. Also Stephanie Meyer doesn't know jack shit about vampires or vampire folklore. All she got right is they feed off blood.
Oh and for you twilight fan girls, vampires don't exiss. Sorry if you didn't get the memo.
Twilight Mom
August 4th, 2009 9:32 PM
Please!!! I have enjoyed over 50 years of reading, and I would love to understand how this woman thinks this is plagiarism! This is how I see it.. 1. How many people do you know of that do NOT have a post-wedding sex scene?? 2.I'm pretty sure that the end result of being bitten by a vampire IS death and 3.There was a little book written in 1970 that ALSO focused on the death of the main characters wife and was ALSO turned into a movie. That book was called Love Story by Erich Segal. This is just a classic case of lashing out at someone who did it better than she did.
shinkriop
August 4th, 2009 9:06 PM
This is direct towards :Kaileah
Of the 4 you can name off the top of your head, are any of them real literature, or are they things comparable the twilight?
Jaclyn
August 4th, 2009 8:34 PM
THIS IS RIDICULOUS! SCOTT IS JUST WANTING HER FAME AND IS JEALOUS OF STEPHENIE BEING THE POPULAR VAMPIRE SERIES AUTHOR THAT SHE IS! IT'S FUNNY HOW NOW ALL THE AUTHORS WHO WROTE VAMPIRE STORIES ARE COMING OUT THE CLOSET RIGHT AFTER TWILIGHT HIT THE EXPLOSION OF SUCCESS THAT IT HAS! WHO EVER THINKS STEPHENIE PLAGIARIZED, YOU SERIOUSLY DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT!
Tiffany
August 4th, 2009 8:26 PM
I am an avid reader in both romance and paranormal romance books. I read all the time . And I have to say that there is NO WAY that something can be so unique anymore now a days. Most especially, vampires. There are a number of authors who describe the the change from human to vampire as being painful. Others, it's instant. I am pretty sure that what Jordan Scott wrote is not entirely her own either. Vampire's in all stories have some similarities or another. No one vampire is ever different in stories anymore.
Like I saw mentioned, a wedding and a honeymoon on a beach is nothing unique. It is extremely common. A get away to the Bahamas, or some sunny, beautiful beach. Wow...that's pretty dang original! Who would have thought of that!? ...Seriously... *Rolls eyes* That is a lame accusation to use as an example of what she might have taken. Not to mention even worse, the problem with calling someone 'Love' that was also, supposedly 'stolen'. .....There are a ton of books with them c
Diana
August 4th, 2009 7:50 PM
I read through the comparisons between the two books presented by Scott's lawyer, and although she tries to scrounge up the best case she can, there really isn't anything that points to plagariasm. Mainly, the lawyer just takes excerpts from Scott's book and then randomly takes lines out of Meyer's without even considering the context. In one instance, he referred to Scott's main character's tendency to call his wife by the word "love" and compared it to Edward's tendency to call "Bella" love, which is ridiculous. How can you compare two things like that? There are probably tons of books out there that have done the same thing, but because Meyer is currently so popular, Scott needed to milk it for some of her own publicity. Ugh.
Twilighter
August 4th, 2009 7:44 PM
Seriously Breaking Dawn is the best book ever wrote If this Jordan Scott lady wants fame just like Stephenie then she should write a better book. Twilighters please do not give fame to this book because that is exactly what she wants!!
Mary
August 4th, 2009 7:06 PM
You can read the cease and desist letter, as well as the supposedly plagiarized passages side by side here:
I don't really know what all of the fuss is about. Twilight sucked. End of Story.People only liked it because it gave them something else to think of besides their own lives. It was as though a sophmore wrote it in the mindstage of a 12-year-old-girl wanting to have a vampire fantasy. Not to mention the overusage of adjectives. Vampire fictions have been around for plenty of years, and there was certainly nothing special about Twilight. Ms. Meyer went too far in trying to be original and ended up turning what was supposed to be one of the most terrifying creatures of the night into a twinkling little fairy boy.
The main fan source was between the ages of 9-20, and if they were older than that they were very lonely housewives with nothing else to think about.
So what if Stephanie Meyer plaigarized? Nobody is going to give half a rat's ass in a couple of months, or maybe even weeks. Possibly days.
There are plenty of other good books out there for people to
I read the alleged similarities and feel like this charge is ludicrous...
Jess
August 4th, 2009 4:17 PM
Maybe Jordan Scott should have done a little research about Stephenie Meyer and Twilight series before making her bogus claim. The bulk of Breaking Dawn (the 4th book in the Twilight Series), was written BEFORE New Moon and Eclipse (the 2nd and 3rd books in the Twilight Series), in the manuscript Forever Dawn, which Stephenie wrote around 2004-2005. Jordan's book didn't come out until 2006.
Plus, the fact that Jordan sent a copy of the cease and disist letter to TMZ, the king of tabloid enfotainment, tells me that she's just seeking publicity. If her case had merit, she'd just leave it up to the courts.
Ciara-Diana
August 4th, 2009 4:15 PM
Who does this dumb bitch think she is? No one has heard of Jordan Scott and she probably thinks by suing Steph Meyer she'll get fame. Guess what? Your book sucks ass! Breaking Dawn was amazing, absolutely amazing! And um, I'm sorry but who the in the f-ing hell doesn't have sex on their wedding night? And you know what is a common result of sex? Babies. GASP!...not. This is a lame ass attempt to get more people to read her lame ass book.
I belive "this dumb bitches" name is jordan scott, the auther of nacturne, which meyer ripped off. just saying. i have read the twilight books and i have to say i am surprised people liked the movie bella wasnt ever able to string together a sentance. AND "Im not scared of you" isnt a sentance (erad 5th grade langug arts book for more info) And theres also somestuff saying that she also copied true blood. which is so obviously copied by meyer. And im just gonna say this EDWARD IS GAY!!!! He reminds me of 2 things, 1 a human disco ball and a cat becaus
August 5th, 2009 7:56 PM
omfgooooood...... Stephenie is INNOCENT!!!!!!!!! HONESTLY!!!! And if this "nocturne" book really exists, how come nobody knows about it??? Stephenie Meyer would have acknowledged the fact that she got her ideas from this other book! It's not like she's a liar or anything! Screw this Jordan Scott!!!!! >:(
August 5th, 2009 4:22 PM
I just want to second what Maren said. TMZ? If it was that important why did she go to TMZ
August 5th, 2009 1:24 PM
ShArOnA - I agree with you 110 % who has heard of Jordan Scott before now?? I know me and my friends haven't !
August 5th, 2009 1:19 PM
Some one just tel that Jordan whatsher name that she is so going to lose and they can't even find the book! When this is over she is going to look like the biggest bitch there every was!
August 5th, 2009 10:58 AM
o.O I agree with ShArOnA. Just forget about it; it's a bad publicity stunt that's going to work if people get all personal about it. There's not enough "similarities" for this to even be taken to court, it'd be laughed out.
They say no publicity is bad publicity, so it doesn't matter if it's in a negative light; look already at the people curious about the book enough to search what it's about. Just laugh it off and let it go :)
August 5th, 2009 2:01 AM
I've read both books and I think this is stupid. These claims are ridiculous.
* Both contain a post-wedding sex scene;
* Both depict a scene about a woman who's sick because she's carrying a child with "evil powers;"
* Both focus on the death of the main character's wife.
Thousands upon thousands of books contain a post-wedding sex scene. It's a very popular belief that people wait until they're married to have sex and plenty of books contain it. She has no right to call that plagiarism.
Even women carrying normal children can become very sick. And I'm sure neither Stephenie nor Jordan were the first to come up with a child with "evil powers" threatening the health of the mother.
Bella didn't die. Plain and simple.
These are both pretty great books. The problem is, more and more writers now a days are claiming being the first to come up with something when they flat out weren't. Do you know how many vampire romances are out there? I'm sure there are ple
Rank: New User
August 5th, 2009 1:01 AM
Anyone who writes a book on a vampire love story would probably think the same. I think she is looking for fame and hoping we will all go and buy the book. So just ignore her and don't go buy it.
August 4th, 2009 11:59 PM
When I typed in the name Jordan Scott, the very first hit I came across for the author was the link to this site/article. I've searched all of the major online bookstores and couldn't even find a used copy of the book. When I put in the ISBN # (which I got from Kyari's post), I only got three hits: this page, the page that Kyari posted from, and a link to a site called www.stanthecaddy.com which goes to a different site altogether. I can't even find the passages that were supposed to have been posted by Jordan Scott online except for on the www.stanthecaddy.com site.
I'm not saying that Ms. Meyer did or did not plagiarize from the other book but I do wonder about the timing of the accusations and whatnot.
August 4th, 2009 11:17 PM
SMEYER IS A HACK!! THAT FAT BITCH!!
August 4th, 2009 11:12 PM
It does not exist! Her website was created in 2009(recently) and is convienintly sold out of The Nocturne. None of the other book selling stites have any record of that book. Not even the Library of Congress has record of it! It is all a hoax! The Nocturne is not an actual book!
August 4th, 2009 11:07 PM
Funny thing is - I'm an avid reader, not big on romance novels, and even less so on popular teen fiction. I totally dissed Twilight every time I walked into Barnes and Noble before reading it. Then one day, I picked it up and read the first chapter and was like "Yeah, okay. Maybe I could get into this, despite the typical teen vocabulary and dialogue."
A few weeks later, I was beyond interested. For anybody who is like "Blah blah blah Twilight is just teen bullshit for twelve year olds", if you can't get over the simple vocabulary and relate to the story on any emotional level, you've never been in a relationship and you were never a teenager. Or maybe you've just gotten so old and pretentious that you don't want to remember what it was like to be that age and very confused. It might be about vampires, it might be about wolves, it might include fictional elements you can't relate to. But if you can't find some kind of connection with how one of the characters feel, you're probably i
August 4th, 2009 10:39 PM
This is sooooo stupid!! This makes all of us(Twilight fans)not want to read Scott's books! Who would after that false accusation? I don't see how that could be classified as plaigarizing.It seems to me that Mrs.Scott only wants attention that is directed towards her books. Well,I don't know about ya'll,but no way will I ever be reading any of Scott's books!!
August 4th, 2009 10:08 PM
I so agree with JeSs. Whoever this Scott person is...You Suck!!! Get a life. Your book sucks, okay. Get over it. I support Stephenie Meyer completely.
August 4th, 2009 9:48 PM
All of you for one need to learn to form sentences. The twilight series is an overated piece of trash. I am a writer/reader and honestly found the series a waste of paper, the poor trees. Also Stephanie Meyer doesn't know jack shit about vampires or vampire folklore. All she got right is they feed off blood.
Oh and for you twilight fan girls, vampires don't exiss. Sorry if you didn't get the memo.
August 4th, 2009 9:32 PM
Please!!! I have enjoyed over 50 years of reading, and I would love to understand how this woman thinks this is plagiarism! This is how I see it.. 1. How many people do you know of that do NOT have a post-wedding sex scene?? 2.I'm pretty sure that the end result of being bitten by a vampire IS death and 3.There was a little book written in 1970 that ALSO focused on the death of the main characters wife and was ALSO turned into a movie. That book was called Love Story by Erich Segal. This is just a classic case of lashing out at someone who did it better than she did.
August 4th, 2009 9:06 PM
This is direct towards :Kaileah
Of the 4 you can name off the top of your head, are any of them real literature, or are they things comparable the twilight?
August 4th, 2009 8:34 PM
THIS IS RIDICULOUS! SCOTT IS JUST WANTING HER FAME AND IS JEALOUS OF STEPHENIE BEING THE POPULAR VAMPIRE SERIES AUTHOR THAT SHE IS! IT'S FUNNY HOW NOW ALL THE AUTHORS WHO WROTE VAMPIRE STORIES ARE COMING OUT THE CLOSET RIGHT AFTER TWILIGHT HIT THE EXPLOSION OF SUCCESS THAT IT HAS! WHO EVER THINKS STEPHENIE PLAGIARIZED, YOU SERIOUSLY DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT!
August 4th, 2009 8:26 PM
I am an avid reader in both romance and paranormal romance books. I read all the time . And I have to say that there is NO WAY that something can be so unique anymore now a days. Most especially, vampires. There are a number of authors who describe the the change from human to vampire as being painful. Others, it's instant. I am pretty sure that what Jordan Scott wrote is not entirely her own either. Vampire's in all stories have some similarities or another. No one vampire is ever different in stories anymore.
Like I saw mentioned, a wedding and a honeymoon on a beach is nothing unique. It is extremely common. A get away to the Bahamas, or some sunny, beautiful beach. Wow...that's pretty dang original! Who would have thought of that!? ...Seriously... *Rolls eyes* That is a lame accusation to use as an example of what she might have taken. Not to mention even worse, the problem with calling someone 'Love' that was also, supposedly 'stolen'. .....There are a ton of books with them c
August 4th, 2009 7:50 PM
I read through the comparisons between the two books presented by Scott's lawyer, and although she tries to scrounge up the best case she can, there really isn't anything that points to plagariasm. Mainly, the lawyer just takes excerpts from Scott's book and then randomly takes lines out of Meyer's without even considering the context. In one instance, he referred to Scott's main character's tendency to call his wife by the word "love" and compared it to Edward's tendency to call "Bella" love, which is ridiculous. How can you compare two things like that? There are probably tons of books out there that have done the same thing, but because Meyer is currently so popular, Scott needed to milk it for some of her own publicity. Ugh.
August 4th, 2009 7:44 PM
Seriously Breaking Dawn is the best book ever wrote If this Jordan Scott lady wants fame just like Stephenie then she should write a better book. Twilighters please do not give fame to this book because that is exactly what she wants!!
August 4th, 2009 7:06 PM
You can read the cease and desist letter, as well as the supposedly plagiarized passages side by side here:
http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_documents/0803_meyer_infringement.pdf
They are not the least bit similar
August 4th, 2009 6:41 PM
Wow. Just wow.
I don't really know what all of the fuss is about. Twilight sucked. End of Story.People only liked it because it gave them something else to think of besides their own lives. It was as though a sophmore wrote it in the mindstage of a 12-year-old-girl wanting to have a vampire fantasy. Not to mention the overusage of adjectives. Vampire fictions have been around for plenty of years, and there was certainly nothing special about Twilight. Ms. Meyer went too far in trying to be original and ended up turning what was supposed to be one of the most terrifying creatures of the night into a twinkling little fairy boy.
The main fan source was between the ages of 9-20, and if they were older than that they were very lonely housewives with nothing else to think about.
So what if Stephanie Meyer plaigarized? Nobody is going to give half a rat's ass in a couple of months, or maybe even weeks. Possibly days.
There are plenty of other good books out there for people to
August 4th, 2009 5:30 PM
http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_documents/0803_meyer_infringement.pdf
I read the alleged similarities and feel like this charge is ludicrous...
August 4th, 2009 4:17 PM
Maybe Jordan Scott should have done a little research about Stephenie Meyer and Twilight series before making her bogus claim. The bulk of Breaking Dawn (the 4th book in the Twilight Series), was written BEFORE New Moon and Eclipse (the 2nd and 3rd books in the Twilight Series), in the manuscript Forever Dawn, which Stephenie wrote around 2004-2005. Jordan's book didn't come out until 2006.
Plus, the fact that Jordan sent a copy of the cease and disist letter to TMZ, the king of tabloid enfotainment, tells me that she's just seeking publicity. If her case had merit, she'd just leave it up to the courts.
August 4th, 2009 4:15 PM
Who does this dumb bitch think she is? No one has heard of Jordan Scott and she probably thinks by suing Steph Meyer she'll get fame. Guess what? Your book sucks ass! Breaking Dawn was amazing, absolutely amazing! And um, I'm sorry but who the in the f-ing hell doesn't have sex on their wedding night? And you know what is a common result of sex? Babies. GASP!...not. This is a lame ass attempt to get more people to read her lame ass book.
I belive "this dumb bitches" name is jordan scott, the auther of nacturne, which meyer ripped off. just saying. i have read the twilight books and i have to say i am surprised people liked the movie bella wasnt ever able to string together a sentance. AND "Im not scared of you" isnt a sentance (erad 5th grade langug arts book for more info) And theres also somestuff saying that she also copied true blood. which is so obviously copied by meyer. And im just gonna say this EDWARD IS GAY!!!! He reminds me of 2 things, 1 a human disco ball and a cat becaus