Sad story. If what appears to be the case really is the case, what a way to learn a lesson. I am not judging McNair or Kazemi -- that's not my job. But I can say that God loves us all, but he does not love everything we do. Having been in a similar situation, I THANK GOD FOR HIS MERCY. I COULD HAVE BEEN DEAD, AND LIKE SO MANY OF YOU THINK, I WOULD HAVE DESERVED IT. Thank God for his grace and mercy. If you don't know Him, get to know Him in the pardon of your sin. He is BETTER TO ME THAN I AM TO MYSELF --- AND HE WILL BE BETTER TO YOU THAN YOU WOULD BE TO YOURSELF.
Shanny Says:
July 6th, 2009 10:30 AM
I feel bad that both of them are dead but Steve shouldn't have been playing around on his wife. He should've let his wife go, paid all the marital/child support, and then he could've laid up w/all the ho's he wanted. Athletes like Steve McNair think they're invincible with all the loot they pull in and they think they can do whatever they want, only hurting their families in the long run. His punishment (death) was too harsh but those Middle Eastern folks don't play games either! He was probably promising his lil mistress that he was going to marry her and he had no real intentions of doing so.
Mary Ann Says:
July 6th, 2009 10:37 AM
It seems that the NFL really needs to give the players some serious training. It is giving the NFL a bad name. I remember when Ray Lewis was in trouble and it could have cost him his career. Luckily, he got himself out of that hole and learned from his mistakes. I want to say to all of the players out there, do what is right and don't get youself caught up with people who are looking to take advantage of your money. It is not worth it and please use this tragedy as a reminder whenever you feel you are tempted for something exciting. It is not worth it. I liked Steve and I am a big Ravens fan so my hearts goes out to the real victim, his wife and children. Players need to stay with people who are educated and with class.
Mary Ann Says:
July 6th, 2009 10:46 AM
In response to Val's comment, yes it would be strange that no one heard the shots that were fired, but I think people heard it but maybe they assumed it was firecrackers. I heard fireworks all weekend even on Friday night and into the early morning hours of Saturday. It this had happened in November, then I am sure someone would have called the police.
Puki Says:
July 6th, 2009 10:53 AM
That's what u get for fooling around with a middle eastern girls. Their culture is so anti-black! So sad McNair's life ended with a link to the world's oldest profession. It all comes back to "MO' MONEY MO' PROBLEMS".
dwalker Says:
July 6th, 2009 10:57 AM
I agree totally with Pookie. Let this be a WARNING to all the cheating husbands out there....including mine!
E Cunningham Says:
July 6th, 2009 11:06 AM
It is a sad story, but so real to the arrogance of people with money and fame! He should have divorced his wife if he was wanted an affair with this girl! He also had a concealed weapons permit for Tennessee. He was know to carry. Don't get me wrong, I'm not demonizing Steve. Just pointing out previous behavior by Steve! All this girl saw was money and "I date a Pro Football Player!" Hell, he bought her a $50,000 plus dollar Cadillac SUV! As a Law Enforcement officer, my theory is that he decided that he was not going to see her any further and she killed him and shot herself, or someone that wanted to date her, laid in waiting, then killed him and shot her in the temple. But it is great probability a murder-suicide! I feel really bad for Steve, the NFL family, but ever worse for his lovely wife and children!
BS Says:
July 6th, 2009 11:11 AM
If he was going to leave his wife what reason did she have to kill him? I think that she was just his play toy and when he decided to break it off she killed him. Men open your eyes and ask yourself would these women really want me if I had nothing and there you will find your answer. My prayers goes out to the families. It is obvious this woman was violent, she was in a violent relationship with her boyfriend before Steve.
MGD Says:
July 6th, 2009 11:23 AM
a person that lives by the sworn, dies by the sworn. I don't wish even a cheating man his life be taken. His girlfriend was also wrong in this. She knew he was married so she shouldn't have gotten involved with him. I'm sure if she was married that she wouldn't have liked another women messing with her husband. He couldn't have gotten involved with her unless she was willing. Regardles rather he told her he was devoicing his wife are not, the thing is he wasn't devoiced so she shouldn't have gotten involved with this married man until he was devoiced. Men always tell you what they think you want to hear. The bottom line McNair nor his girlfriend was being honest with their mates. She was lying to her boyfriend and McNair was lying to her. They were both lier. The life you live by the live you die by. My heart goes out to the entire McNair family. We all should let this be a lesson learned to ALL cheaters out there. This is a real hard lesson that certainly will get ALL cheaters attenion. If it don't it should.
Even though he was cheating on his wife, no one deserves to be killed Pookie. He was a human being just like you are and even though I don't know you, you don't even deserve that. There is just way too much killing going on in the world over little stupid stuff. There was this 14 year old girl here in my town that stabbed a 12 year old all because he threw a rock at her house. The sad thing is that just before that 12 year old died he told the girl that he was sorry for throwing the rock and then he died in his dads arms. Now, you tell me Pookie, did that 12 year old deserve to die? The McNair Family have my prayers and God will see you all through this.
MD Says:
July 6th, 2009 11:50 AM
It is sad for all; but there's a lot here that meets the eye. As I read behind the lines on what occured; the wife, the ex-BF, possible gambling debts, religion, family,and all. Yeah, he was an adulterer; but the question is who would gain upon his death? I would search for a motive. By making it look like a "murder/suicide" leads me to believe, there are more this than meets the eye.
Frankie J Says:
July 6th, 2009 12:15 PM
I am truly sad because another prominant black athlete is violently brought down over some BS. I am sad for Steve and Sahel's family. What ever the circumstances were, neither one deserved to lose their life and anyone who believes that they did is probably not a Christian.
Concerned Says:
July 6th, 2009 12:35 PM
I see a few issues that are disturbing
1. His friends had access to the condo. Why? what was this condo purchased for?
2. When the DUI occurred, she was arrested and he was sent away in a taxi. Did he go home or did he go to the condo?
3. If he went to the condo after the DUI, how did the truck get back to the Condo?
4. The wife indicated not having any conversation with him for 2 days. Why? Could she not reach him? Did she even know that he was 10 miles away?
5. Back to the "friends"... this guy felt comfortable enough to see them in the condo and walk by most likely believing they are asleep but then finally noticing they were injured /dead? Why was he so comfortable?
Why did he have to "check on" Steve?
6. Why did the friend call the other friend rather than simply calling 9-1-1?
I think that the friends were well aware of Mcnair being in town, the wife had no clue, and the girlfriend finally was released.
Clearly something went wrong. He's a big guy, either he was killed by his own gun while sleep or simply drunk and she pulled the gun on herslef or the boyfriend surfaced and killed both. If he did, how did he get a key to the place. There were no signs of forced entry.
Meanwhile, the wife is technically not ruled out. She may have got wind of the DUI and then the relationship, snapped, and invited herself over to the condo, killed him then her... walked away..
I would like to hear a police report if gunshot residue was on the girlfriend hands/clothers.... and checking the wife to see if she is clear for gunshot residue.
Ms. M Says:
July 6th, 2009 12:53 PM
We should all be praying for Mechelle and the kids. Only God can judge. It is a tragedy and Mechelle needs all the prayers she can get. It's no longer about Steve, but about Mechelle and the kids. God Bless You Mechelle, your family and as well as Steve's family.
R J Says:
July 6th, 2009 12:57 PM
1st off my sympathies goes out both familes! i am sorry that any of us have to suffer for things of this magnitude. we know that God's promise is much, much better! i wasn't there and i don't like to judge because it is not my option. however i do have an opinion... from what i've heard, it just doesn't make since to me. i think the both of them were murdered. in short...for whatever reason. come on!... there were 5 shots total. no one heard a thing. police aren't giving too much info, which makes it a open and shut case so far. DON'T MAAAAKE SENSSSE! that's my opinion. dating for six months, no matter what you did together... you are not sprung like that! especially in these times. if so,tell me so i'll know who is? was it jealousy, greed, deceit, hatered or a planning of getting the money? people suck, but not all. we all do things wrong and no matter what you did, let JEHOVAH GOD do what he said he will do... and that's to be the JUDGE. IF THE RESPONSIBLE ONE IS OUT THERE ... THEY WILL GET CAUGHT! 2 DAYS OR 30 YEARS from now... THEY WILL GET CAUGHT! "PERIOD"
lorrin Says:
July 6th, 2009 1:43 PM
Well, he was definitely at the right bar the night before - the Loser's Bar .. Condolences to his family, at least his widow and her boys will be left with the estate.
Unfortunately his lack of morals will overshadow anything he may have accomplished in the community or in his career. Loser.
Marco Says:
July 6th, 2009 2:38 PM
The thing that gets me is that if they were going out on all these dates then how in the world didnt his wife find out. I mean for god sake he bougght her a car he had to be puttin in work with this lady for her to be thinking that they were going to get married i think he tried to break it off after the dui and she didnt like the sound of it and murdered him them her self.
Glenview Boy Says:
July 6th, 2009 3:22 PM
Hey Toya ("God don't like adultery"): Apparently God does not approve of people who are starving to death either, as tens of thousands die of hunger daily in this world. Grow up and come up with an adult comment.
saddened Says:
July 6th, 2009 4:23 PM
It is really sad to see all the critisim going on about two individuals who is no longer with us. A life is a high price to pay, and regardless of what one does no one deserves it. We are all human, and we all make mistakes. God is a forgiving God so trust me he is seated in heaven, as where he should be. That is what is wrong with the world today too many people thinking they are better than another. Get over it, to all who think they do no wrong. No one can judge but God himself. May God bless both families, my prayers are with them. RIP.
Linda Says:
July 6th, 2009 4:31 PM
Just read the TN cops think she did it. And the murderer's stupid sister said: "It's not true. She loved Steve too much." Yeah, that was some love all right. Just a selfish bullying no good ho that murdered a man because he didn't do whatever it was she wanted. I hope she rots in hell.
Fresh Says:
July 6th, 2009 5:23 PM
Man, Pookie sounds crazy. Women always think its bad when men cheat, but when women sneak out to the "club" and have numerous indescretions that nobody knows about, welll... that's the "in thing"...the "Sex and the City" thing.
Nobody deserves to die for that. Stop that.
shawanda shackelford Says:
July 6th, 2009 5:37 PM
Although, i'm saddened by both losses. I feel the sorriest for his beautiful wife and kids. What this poor woman must be going thru. To be humiliated in public is one thing, but to also lose your loved one along with that humiliation is another. I'm sure she has all kinds of feelings twisted up inside her. Cause lets keep it real, can u fully mourn the loss of your man when he was found with another woman who he met while taking you and your kids out to dinner? Had this woman in your face repeatedly? Bought this female a vehicle? That poor Lady. May God be with You, Mechelle.
disappointed Says:
July 6th, 2009 6:10 PM
I'm sorry about the loss of a life i hope while he was dying he had time to repent because hell is real. My prayers are with the wife and children because now his children don't have a daddy. i also hope being that the birthday present(cadillac esc.) was in both of the deceased names that Mechelle McNair gets possession of it. It's no good thing that comes out of adultery and i'm a firm believer that if you don't want a marriage get out of it instead of playing games with peoples life. That's a terrible feeling and to have to find out like this. Mechelle bestrong in the Lord, keep your head up high and wait on the lord. Some good man will replace him and help be a good daddy to your sons and will help you spend that estate money.
stardust Says:
July 6th, 2009 6:31 PM
What a year, to many deaths already !! Who else is going to be leaving us so soon.
Amanda Says:
July 6th, 2009 6:46 PM
So the guys finds two dead bodies and calls McNair's best friend first instead of dialing 911? Stupid.
You date a married, middle-aged, ex-NFL player less than 6 months and you think he's going to marry you? Stupid.
You buy an Escalade for your jumpoff and take her on private vacations? Stupid.
My heart goes out to his wife who is now left to grieve and be humiliated with the seedy details of her stupid husband's affair.
July 6th, 2009 10:21 AM
Sad story. If what appears to be the case really is the case, what a way to learn a lesson. I am not judging McNair or Kazemi -- that's not my job. But I can say that God loves us all, but he does not love everything we do. Having been in a similar situation, I THANK GOD FOR HIS MERCY. I COULD HAVE BEEN DEAD, AND LIKE SO MANY OF YOU THINK, I WOULD HAVE DESERVED IT. Thank God for his grace and mercy. If you don't know Him, get to know Him in the pardon of your sin. He is BETTER TO ME THAN I AM TO MYSELF --- AND HE WILL BE BETTER TO YOU THAN YOU WOULD BE TO YOURSELF.
July 6th, 2009 10:30 AM
I feel bad that both of them are dead but Steve shouldn't have been playing around on his wife. He should've let his wife go, paid all the marital/child support, and then he could've laid up w/all the ho's he wanted. Athletes like Steve McNair think they're invincible with all the loot they pull in and they think they can do whatever they want, only hurting their families in the long run. His punishment (death) was too harsh but those Middle Eastern folks don't play games either! He was probably promising his lil mistress that he was going to marry her and he had no real intentions of doing so.
July 6th, 2009 10:37 AM
It seems that the NFL really needs to give the players some serious training. It is giving the NFL a bad name. I remember when Ray Lewis was in trouble and it could have cost him his career. Luckily, he got himself out of that hole and learned from his mistakes. I want to say to all of the players out there, do what is right and don't get youself caught up with people who are looking to take advantage of your money. It is not worth it and please use this tragedy as a reminder whenever you feel you are tempted for something exciting. It is not worth it. I liked Steve and I am a big Ravens fan so my hearts goes out to the real victim, his wife and children. Players need to stay with people who are educated and with class.
July 6th, 2009 10:46 AM
In response to Val's comment, yes it would be strange that no one heard the shots that were fired, but I think people heard it but maybe they assumed it was firecrackers. I heard fireworks all weekend even on Friday night and into the early morning hours of Saturday. It this had happened in November, then I am sure someone would have called the police.
July 6th, 2009 10:53 AM
That's what u get for fooling around with a middle eastern girls. Their culture is so anti-black! So sad McNair's life ended with a link to the world's oldest profession. It all comes back to "MO' MONEY MO' PROBLEMS".
July 6th, 2009 10:57 AM
I agree totally with Pookie. Let this be a WARNING to all the cheating husbands out there....including mine!
July 6th, 2009 11:06 AM
It is a sad story, but so real to the arrogance of people with money and fame! He should have divorced his wife if he was wanted an affair with this girl! He also had a concealed weapons permit for Tennessee. He was know to carry. Don't get me wrong, I'm not demonizing Steve. Just pointing out previous behavior by Steve! All this girl saw was money and "I date a Pro Football Player!" Hell, he bought her a $50,000 plus dollar Cadillac SUV! As a Law Enforcement officer, my theory is that he decided that he was not going to see her any further and she killed him and shot herself, or someone that wanted to date her, laid in waiting, then killed him and shot her in the temple. But it is great probability a murder-suicide! I feel really bad for Steve, the NFL family, but ever worse for his lovely wife and children!
July 6th, 2009 11:11 AM
If he was going to leave his wife what reason did she have to kill him? I think that she was just his play toy and when he decided to break it off she killed him. Men open your eyes and ask yourself would these women really want me if I had nothing and there you will find your answer. My prayers goes out to the families. It is obvious this woman was violent, she was in a violent relationship with her boyfriend before Steve.
July 6th, 2009 11:23 AM
a person that lives by the sworn, dies by the sworn. I don't wish even a cheating man his life be taken. His girlfriend was also wrong in this. She knew he was married so she shouldn't have gotten involved with him. I'm sure if she was married that she wouldn't have liked another women messing with her husband. He couldn't have gotten involved with her unless she was willing. Regardles rather he told her he was devoicing his wife are not, the thing is he wasn't devoiced so she shouldn't have gotten involved with this married man until he was devoiced. Men always tell you what they think you want to hear. The bottom line McNair nor his girlfriend was being honest with their mates. She was lying to her boyfriend and McNair was lying to her. They were both lier. The life you live by the live you die by. My heart goes out to the entire McNair family. We all should let this be a lesson learned to ALL cheaters out there. This is a real hard lesson that certainly will get ALL cheaters attenion. If it don't it should.
July 6th, 2009 11:46 AM
Even though he was cheating on his wife, no one deserves to be killed Pookie. He was a human being just like you are and even though I don't know you, you don't even deserve that. There is just way too much killing going on in the world over little stupid stuff. There was this 14 year old girl here in my town that stabbed a 12 year old all because he threw a rock at her house. The sad thing is that just before that 12 year old died he told the girl that he was sorry for throwing the rock and then he died in his dads arms. Now, you tell me Pookie, did that 12 year old deserve to die? The McNair Family have my prayers and God will see you all through this.
July 6th, 2009 11:50 AM
It is sad for all; but there's a lot here that meets the eye. As I read behind the lines on what occured; the wife, the ex-BF, possible gambling debts, religion, family,and all. Yeah, he was an adulterer; but the question is who would gain upon his death? I would search for a motive. By making it look like a "murder/suicide" leads me to believe, there are more this than meets the eye.
July 6th, 2009 12:15 PM
I am truly sad because another prominant black athlete is violently brought down over some BS. I am sad for Steve and Sahel's family. What ever the circumstances were, neither one deserved to lose their life and anyone who believes that they did is probably not a Christian.
July 6th, 2009 12:35 PM
I see a few issues that are disturbing
1. His friends had access to the condo. Why? what was this condo purchased for?
2. When the DUI occurred, she was arrested and he was sent away in a taxi. Did he go home or did he go to the condo?
3. If he went to the condo after the DUI, how did the truck get back to the Condo?
4. The wife indicated not having any conversation with him for 2 days. Why? Could she not reach him? Did she even know that he was 10 miles away?
5. Back to the "friends"... this guy felt comfortable enough to see them in the condo and walk by most likely believing they are asleep but then finally noticing they were injured /dead? Why was he so comfortable?
Why did he have to "check on" Steve?
6. Why did the friend call the other friend rather than simply calling 9-1-1?
I think that the friends were well aware of Mcnair being in town, the wife had no clue, and the girlfriend finally was released.
Clearly something went wrong. He's a big guy, either he was killed by his own gun while sleep or simply drunk and she pulled the gun on herslef or the boyfriend surfaced and killed both. If he did, how did he get a key to the place. There were no signs of forced entry.
Meanwhile, the wife is technically not ruled out. She may have got wind of the DUI and then the relationship, snapped, and invited herself over to the condo, killed him then her... walked away..
I would like to hear a police report if gunshot residue was on the girlfriend hands/clothers.... and checking the wife to see if she is clear for gunshot residue.
July 6th, 2009 12:53 PM
We should all be praying for Mechelle and the kids. Only God can judge. It is a tragedy and Mechelle needs all the prayers she can get. It's no longer about Steve, but about Mechelle and the kids. God Bless You Mechelle, your family and as well as Steve's family.
July 6th, 2009 12:57 PM
1st off my sympathies goes out both familes! i am sorry that any of us have to suffer for things of this magnitude. we know that God's promise is much, much better! i wasn't there and i don't like to judge because it is not my option. however i do have an opinion... from what i've heard, it just doesn't make since to me. i think the both of them were murdered. in short...for whatever reason. come on!... there were 5 shots total. no one heard a thing. police aren't giving too much info, which makes it a open and shut case so far. DON'T MAAAAKE SENSSSE! that's my opinion. dating for six months, no matter what you did together... you are not sprung like that! especially in these times. if so,tell me so i'll know who is? was it jealousy, greed, deceit, hatered or a planning of getting the money? people suck, but not all. we all do things wrong and no matter what you did, let JEHOVAH GOD do what he said he will do... and that's to be the JUDGE. IF THE RESPONSIBLE ONE IS OUT THERE ... THEY WILL GET CAUGHT! 2 DAYS OR 30 YEARS from now... THEY WILL GET CAUGHT! "PERIOD"
July 6th, 2009 1:43 PM
Well, he was definitely at the right bar the night before - the Loser's Bar .. Condolences to his family, at least his widow and her boys will be left with the estate.
Unfortunately his lack of morals will overshadow anything he may have accomplished in the community or in his career. Loser.
July 6th, 2009 2:38 PM
The thing that gets me is that if they were going out on all these dates then how in the world didnt his wife find out. I mean for god sake he bougght her a car he had to be puttin in work with this lady for her to be thinking that they were going to get married i think he tried to break it off after the dui and she didnt like the sound of it and murdered him them her self.
July 6th, 2009 3:22 PM
Hey Toya ("God don't like adultery"): Apparently God does not approve of people who are starving to death either, as tens of thousands die of hunger daily in this world. Grow up and come up with an adult comment.
July 6th, 2009 4:23 PM
It is really sad to see all the critisim going on about two individuals who is no longer with us. A life is a high price to pay, and regardless of what one does no one deserves it. We are all human, and we all make mistakes. God is a forgiving God so trust me he is seated in heaven, as where he should be. That is what is wrong with the world today too many people thinking they are better than another. Get over it, to all who think they do no wrong. No one can judge but God himself. May God bless both families, my prayers are with them. RIP.
July 6th, 2009 4:31 PM
Just read the TN cops think she did it. And the murderer's stupid sister said: "It's not true. She loved Steve too much." Yeah, that was some love all right. Just a selfish bullying no good ho that murdered a man because he didn't do whatever it was she wanted. I hope she rots in hell.
July 6th, 2009 5:23 PM
Man, Pookie sounds crazy. Women always think its bad when men cheat, but when women sneak out to the "club" and have numerous indescretions that nobody knows about, welll... that's the "in thing"...the "Sex and the City" thing.
Nobody deserves to die for that. Stop that.
July 6th, 2009 5:37 PM
Although, i'm saddened by both losses. I feel the sorriest for his beautiful wife and kids. What this poor woman must be going thru. To be humiliated in public is one thing, but to also lose your loved one along with that humiliation is another. I'm sure she has all kinds of feelings twisted up inside her. Cause lets keep it real, can u fully mourn the loss of your man when he was found with another woman who he met while taking you and your kids out to dinner? Had this woman in your face repeatedly? Bought this female a vehicle? That poor Lady. May God be with You, Mechelle.
July 6th, 2009 6:10 PM
I'm sorry about the loss of a life i hope while he was dying he had time to repent because hell is real. My prayers are with the wife and children because now his children don't have a daddy. i also hope being that the birthday present(cadillac esc.) was in both of the deceased names that Mechelle McNair gets possession of it. It's no good thing that comes out of adultery and i'm a firm believer that if you don't want a marriage get out of it instead of playing games with peoples life. That's a terrible feeling and to have to find out like this. Mechelle bestrong in the Lord, keep your head up high and wait on the lord. Some good man will replace him and help be a good daddy to your sons and will help you spend that estate money.
July 6th, 2009 6:31 PM
What a year, to many deaths already !! Who else is going to be leaving us so soon.
July 6th, 2009 6:46 PM
So the guys finds two dead bodies and calls McNair's best friend first instead of dialing 911? Stupid.
You date a married, middle-aged, ex-NFL player less than 6 months and you think he's going to marry you? Stupid.
You buy an Escalade for your jumpoff and take her on private vacations? Stupid.
My heart goes out to his wife who is now left to grieve and be humiliated with the seedy details of her stupid husband's affair.