Mark Sanford Emails to Mistress Maria Belen Shapur Revealed; Jenny Sanford Kicks Him Out Comments (Page 3)
61 Comments
jojo
June 25th, 2009 1:09 PM
Once an affair starts it is hard to stop it, so why start it? I feel sorry for the whole family because something like this destroys the family, and everyone is hurt. Where is the shame?
justme
June 25th, 2009 1:07 PM
Men and women cheat because they, THEY, choose to do so. It is a choice. No one makes a person cheat...they choose that behavior. Infidelity happens in happy marriages and unhappy marriages. All it takes is opportunity, lack of boundaries and a whole lot of selfishness. And if the cheater, the other woman or even the nosy bystander wants to point the finger at the wife, let's just remember she was in the same marriage as her husband and I wonder just what all HE was doing to nurture a loving marriage. I wonder exactly how much HE confided in his wife about his unhappiness. There is always 2 sides to a story.
lovewins...I think it is quite laughable that you lump Mrs. Sanford in the same category as Kate Gosselin. While one has done her very best to keep this matter private with dignity and grace, the other has shouted it from the roof tops and to anyone who will listen. You don't have a clue what has gone on in the Sanford marriage. The fact that Mrs. Sanford asked her hu
BIG DADDY
June 25th, 2009 12:44 PM
JUST THE TRUTH: I'LL BET THE TRUTH WOULD BE A REVALATION FOR YOU GIRL. THE FACT IS ITS WOMEN WITH THIS KIND OF BELIEFS AND THINKING THAT SEND GUYS HUNTING. IF YOU COULD BEQUIET LONG ENOUGH TO LISTEN YOUR MAN IF YOU HAD ONE WOULD TELL YOU HE GOT MORE IN THE 8TH GRADE THAN YOU HAVE SUPPLIED IN THE LAST 10 YEARS
dontblametheinnocent
June 25th, 2009 12:29 PM
How dare you blame the innocent party in this fiasco! If it had been Mrs. Sanford who had an affair, I am sure she would get no sympathy at all.
seaview777
June 25th, 2009 12:05 PM
Hi LoveWins:
That's great you love you husband. Would it be o.k. to kiss your bare shoulders? No one else has to know ;^)
Twice Betrayed
June 25th, 2009 12:03 PM
After being married to two cheaters....I can tell you it has nothing to do with who you are as a wife/mother. It has to do with who the man is and what his values are [or are not!]. I realize men seem to be more tempted with lust than women. It is a fact of life. This still does not give a man the license to cheat. It's all in where your values reside. I am a very attractive female who kept her looks well cared for, stood behind her husbands and was very kind and always there for them. It made no difference. True love values the other's feelings and takes those into consideration. Lust is a strong hold that usually takes most people over. I am not bitter...nor a man hater, but I sure do feel for the wife because this shatters a woman. May God stand behind her...and He will because any way you word it....cheating is cheating.
Gal
June 25th, 2009 12:01 PM
I totally GET him and how much he loves Maria. Trust me, it CAN happen. I feel so sorry for him with the release of these very private emails. He loves her. So yeah, he's married and it is completely wrong to cheat. No matter how the wife spins it, there was something lacking at home that he had emotionally found with Maria FIRST before the sex. My heart goes out to him for allowing it to happen, but I am on HIS side. Yes, it's completely wrong, but you love whom you connect with. You just DO. He will honor the promise to his wife, but trust me, his heart belongs to Maria.
getter
June 25th, 2009 11:59 AM
Bottom Line. His wife is part of the multimillion dollar SKIL power tool empire. I would leave him in a heartbeat and go get myself a much younger man that looks even better on my arm.
Nish
June 25th, 2009 11:46 AM
Lovewins - wasn't he seeing the other woman BEFORE his wife told him to leave? AND It does take both partners to make a RESPECTFUL relationship. I'm not having sex just to keep my man home, because if that's all our marriage is, HE can leave now! Sure men like sex, but so do I. But I also want love, respect and devotion.
karena
June 25th, 2009 11:39 AM
This is only part of the emails though.. they have all of the emails downloadable over at http://jjpeg.com/file2018451.html if you want to see them, but WARNING: they're *really* cheesy haha.. they also have a video of Governor Sanford with the mistress last year at a gala (not holding hands or anything but together nonetheless) over at http://jjpeg.com/watch28015.htmlif anyone wants to see what she looks like
LoveWins
June 25th, 2009 11:23 AM
Based on the comments from some of the women who posted on this site, I can see why your men would stray. Your bitterness and nastiness come through in writing, and I am sure it isn't any better in person. Respect people for being human and provide love and understanding. Mrs. Sanford threw out a threat to her husband and he reacted. She is upset because he seeked love? I imagine she married him because he was loving. His emails seem to reflect love more so than lust. When communication is cut, everything is lost.
Anonymous
June 25th, 2009 11:06 AM
Well, just because his wife told him to leave does not give him a license to cheat! bottom line. The flesh can be weak, and in his case it was. He should have taken that time to figure out what can he do to help get his marriage back on the right track. This just disgusts me! we give men so many excuses...it's ridiculous! they need to buck up, be a man and take responsibility for heavens sake.
Tired of the same ole same ole
June 25th, 2009 10:50 AM
Love Wins.. you are an idiot...
lets hope the relations you have with your husband last forever and he never has the need to look elsewhere for what you arent giving him at home..
4 sons and a woman by your side does not equal public humilation. whether you are getting love at home or not.Its a matter of respect. And now the tears and apologies start..
please...
ccgirl
June 25th, 2009 10:36 AM
THE PERSON WHO SAID IT JUST SEX HES RIGHT IT IS BUT YOU HAVE A CHOICE A DEVOUT CHRISTIAN WHAT HAPPEN TO THAT ITS SELFISH ON HIS PART A LACK OF COMMUNICATION WITH HIS WIFE I HAVE COMPASSION FOR THE GOV.BUT MAINELY FOR HIS WIFE WHAT DOES THAT SAY AS A MAN,HUSBAND AND FATHER BUT MOST OF HE SINNED BEFORE THE LORD REMEMBER GOD KNOWS AND SEE ALL THINGS AND GOD WAS WATHCHING ALL ALONG WHATS DONE IN THE DARKK WILL COME TO THE LIGHT HOPEFULLY THE WOMEN IS NOT PREGNANT!
DecaturHeel Rank: New User
June 25th, 2009 10:35 AM
I thought it was VIRGINIA that was for lovers, not South Carolina! In any event, it's easy to confuse Appalachia with Argentina...they both have vast expanses of unexplored wilderness, like Sanford's soul. Here, this is a good lesson: http://www.zazzle.com/south_carolina_gov_mark_sanford_shirt-235949377168700857
NCobserver
June 25th, 2009 10:30 AM
LoveWins - my apologies. I'm happy that you're a happily married woman. I don't think too many women believe they have their husband trapped just because they have children. Most women who are mothers take their role very seriously and their marriage as a commitment on the parts of both husband and wife as father and mother. You didn't state how long you've been married or if you have children (they are not "kids"). Good for you for being able shower, re-do your make-up and look like a million dollars for your husband when he gets home from work. Some of don't have that luxury. We have children who also need some attention and we have a "family" and enjoy doing things as a family in the evenings and on weekends. My husband still adores me and tells me I'm beautiful after almost 24 years of marriage and three children, even though my make-up may not be perfect at 5:00 in the afternoon, and I don't have time or the money to go to the gym every day, get cosmetic upgrades, or whatever to l
LoveWins
June 25th, 2009 10:20 AM
Please understand, I feel that love takes both partners - the man and the woman. However, I have met many women that say things like "he isn't getting any tonight", as if that is a threat, and then they are shocked when the man gets a mistress. My husband and I talk all the time. I know he can go online and get many women to be with him; therefore, I stay a part of his life so that he doesn't feel the need to look elsewhere. Mrs. Sanford told her husband to leave the house for 2 weeks, and then is surprised that he sought out another woman for companionship? If you know your man is good, then don't tell him to leave!
bscure
June 25th, 2009 10:16 AM
Infidelity invades marriages everyday and this situation is played out in the media due to Sanford's political office.
People cheat on their spouses, men and women, for various reasons and it is a choice to do so. It is an act of their will. No one can blame the other spouse for infidelity, one action is not the reaction of the other.
Sanford is sorry, only because he got caught, no other reasoning here, and he didn't stop seeing his mistress after his wife asked him to vacate their home to address this very issue.
The Sanfords now must determine the course of their lives as married partners and as the parents of their children. They will always remain parents of their children, whether they can work through this affair remains to be seen.
NCobserver
June 25th, 2009 10:12 AM
LoveWins -- Why should the wife work hard all day, whether in the home or an outside job, then be required to look good for their husband? Why is the pressure on the wife and why is it her sole responsibility to keep the spark alive? You, yourself, stated that people get married because they want to be together. That means they both share the responsibility of keeping the marriage together. The wife is not some little trophy the man has won. People with this mentality are demeaning and arrogant. "Men want to feel good and proud." Then, treat your wife like a wife. Treat your family as your loved ones. Why would a wife and family be proud of a husband/father who would rather spend time seeking his own pleasure elsewhere than at home or with his wife and family? Maybe this type of man (and LoveWins) should take a good look in the mirror and do a little soul searching. Maybe there's a reason the wife doesn't want him. This type of man is self-centered, disrespectful and totally uncari
LoveWins
June 25th, 2009 10:05 AM
I am not a man, I am a WOMAN - a HAPPILY MARRIED woman, who speaks to my husband daily about all aspects of our life together. We have regular relations and it is wonderful. I can't imagine spending time with anyone other than him. Then I see other women get married for reasons other than love, and they are surprised when things fail. Just because you are married with kids, that is no reason for you ladies to think you have your man trapped for life. Life is precious and women need to stop thinking they have the upper hand over their men. Love the men and do not take the love for granted!
bela
June 25th, 2009 10:02 AM
now the republican party has become a horny party. republicans are the most hipocrats, hipochristians, and idiots party.
NCobserver
June 25th, 2009 9:51 AM
LoveWins is as much an idiot as Sanford. I only hope he's not married because I would bet he goes looking elsewhere for what he "obviously [was] is not getting at home." Marriage is more than just sex. Obviously, Sanford has no respect for his wife or his sons. What a terrible example he is setting for his sons; what a terrible excuse for a husband; what a terrible excuse for a father; and what a terrible excuse for a leader. The people of SC have taken a beating in the depressed economy and now to hear that their Governor was using State funds to pay for his pleasure trips to Argentina. If Sanford had taken the stimulus money, he would have been required to account for what it was used for. He probably didn't want that. Plus, the only way he was going to accept the money was to "pay off bills" -- did he mean bills generated from his extracurricular affairs or bills that weren't paid with taxpayers' money because he had already used that money for his own pleasure trips? For the sake o
B W
June 25th, 2009 9:43 AM
A man does not have to be forced out to be with other woman...You said you always hear that wives of politicians become prima donnas and overbearing-how would you know? That statement is broad.....you can be a great, supporting, loving, and caring wife, but when a man what to cheat, he will regardless. He will find a way to do it without caring becasue at that moment all he is thinking about his hisself. Men of that caliber is selfish. They do not think about the consequences until after being caught......I feel as though if you are married and not happy, leave......most men in power think they can say and do whatever........
LoveWins
June 25th, 2009 9:42 AM
People should get married because they want to be together. When the love ends, it does no one any good if you dread coming home. It sure doesn't help the kids when they see two people who can't stand one another. Ladies, take time for your husbands. Don't think they want to come home and see you all homely. They don't care that you cleaned the house all day - take a shower and look nice for them! Think of ways to keep the spark alive! The men want to feel good and proud. If they are getting it at home, they will not look elsewhere!
JustTheTruth
June 25th, 2009 9:34 AM
Love Wins needs a wake up call. Men cheat. Period. They cheat, and the sooner women realize that, the less hurt they will be. They are just wired differently than women are. It doesn't matter if they are still married, or still in love with their wives, they cheat if given the opportunity. To men, it is just sex. Period. Just Sex. And they will say or do anything to have sex. Ladies, word of advise: expect it, it will happen eventually to each and every one of you. Because, after all, it is just sex.
June 25th, 2009 1:09 PM
Once an affair starts it is hard to stop it, so why start it? I feel sorry for the whole family because something like this destroys the family, and everyone is hurt. Where is the shame?
June 25th, 2009 1:07 PM
Men and women cheat because they, THEY, choose to do so. It is a choice. No one makes a person cheat...they choose that behavior. Infidelity happens in happy marriages and unhappy marriages. All it takes is opportunity, lack of boundaries and a whole lot of selfishness. And if the cheater, the other woman or even the nosy bystander wants to point the finger at the wife, let's just remember she was in the same marriage as her husband and I wonder just what all HE was doing to nurture a loving marriage. I wonder exactly how much HE confided in his wife about his unhappiness. There is always 2 sides to a story.
lovewins...I think it is quite laughable that you lump Mrs. Sanford in the same category as Kate Gosselin. While one has done her very best to keep this matter private with dignity and grace, the other has shouted it from the roof tops and to anyone who will listen. You don't have a clue what has gone on in the Sanford marriage. The fact that Mrs. Sanford asked her hu
June 25th, 2009 12:44 PM
JUST THE TRUTH: I'LL BET THE TRUTH WOULD BE A REVALATION FOR YOU GIRL. THE FACT IS ITS WOMEN WITH THIS KIND OF BELIEFS AND THINKING THAT SEND GUYS HUNTING. IF YOU COULD BEQUIET LONG ENOUGH TO LISTEN YOUR MAN IF YOU HAD ONE WOULD TELL YOU HE GOT MORE IN THE 8TH GRADE THAN YOU HAVE SUPPLIED IN THE LAST 10 YEARS
June 25th, 2009 12:29 PM
How dare you blame the innocent party in this fiasco! If it had been Mrs. Sanford who had an affair, I am sure she would get no sympathy at all.
June 25th, 2009 12:05 PM
Hi LoveWins:
That's great you love you husband. Would it be o.k. to kiss your bare shoulders? No one else has to know ;^)
June 25th, 2009 12:03 PM
After being married to two cheaters....I can tell you it has nothing to do with who you are as a wife/mother. It has to do with who the man is and what his values are [or are not!]. I realize men seem to be more tempted with lust than women. It is a fact of life. This still does not give a man the license to cheat. It's all in where your values reside. I am a very attractive female who kept her looks well cared for, stood behind her husbands and was very kind and always there for them. It made no difference. True love values the other's feelings and takes those into consideration. Lust is a strong hold that usually takes most people over. I am not bitter...nor a man hater, but I sure do feel for the wife because this shatters a woman. May God stand behind her...and He will because any way you word it....cheating is cheating.
June 25th, 2009 12:01 PM
I totally GET him and how much he loves Maria. Trust me, it CAN happen. I feel so sorry for him with the release of these very private emails. He loves her. So yeah, he's married and it is completely wrong to cheat. No matter how the wife spins it, there was something lacking at home that he had emotionally found with Maria FIRST before the sex. My heart goes out to him for allowing it to happen, but I am on HIS side. Yes, it's completely wrong, but you love whom you connect with. You just DO. He will honor the promise to his wife, but trust me, his heart belongs to Maria.
June 25th, 2009 11:59 AM
Bottom Line. His wife is part of the multimillion dollar SKIL power tool empire. I would leave him in a heartbeat and go get myself a much younger man that looks even better on my arm.
June 25th, 2009 11:46 AM
Lovewins - wasn't he seeing the other woman BEFORE his wife told him to leave? AND It does take both partners to make a RESPECTFUL relationship. I'm not having sex just to keep my man home, because if that's all our marriage is, HE can leave now! Sure men like sex, but so do I. But I also want love, respect and devotion.
June 25th, 2009 11:39 AM
This is only part of the emails though.. they have all of the emails downloadable over at http://jjpeg.com/file2018451.html if you want to see them, but WARNING: they're *really* cheesy haha.. they also have a video of Governor Sanford with the mistress last year at a gala (not holding hands or anything but together nonetheless) over at http://jjpeg.com/watch28015.htmlif anyone wants to see what she looks like
June 25th, 2009 11:23 AM
Based on the comments from some of the women who posted on this site, I can see why your men would stray. Your bitterness and nastiness come through in writing, and I am sure it isn't any better in person. Respect people for being human and provide love and understanding. Mrs. Sanford threw out a threat to her husband and he reacted. She is upset because he seeked love? I imagine she married him because he was loving. His emails seem to reflect love more so than lust. When communication is cut, everything is lost.
June 25th, 2009 11:06 AM
Well, just because his wife told him to leave does not give him a license to cheat! bottom line. The flesh can be weak, and in his case it was. He should have taken that time to figure out what can he do to help get his marriage back on the right track. This just disgusts me! we give men so many excuses...it's ridiculous! they need to buck up, be a man and take responsibility for heavens sake.
June 25th, 2009 10:50 AM
Love Wins.. you are an idiot...
lets hope the relations you have with your husband last forever and he never has the need to look elsewhere for what you arent giving him at home..
4 sons and a woman by your side does not equal public humilation. whether you are getting love at home or not.Its a matter of respect. And now the tears and apologies start..
please...
June 25th, 2009 10:36 AM
THE PERSON WHO SAID IT JUST SEX HES RIGHT IT IS BUT YOU HAVE A CHOICE A DEVOUT CHRISTIAN WHAT HAPPEN TO THAT ITS SELFISH ON HIS PART A LACK OF COMMUNICATION WITH HIS WIFE I HAVE COMPASSION FOR THE GOV.BUT MAINELY FOR HIS WIFE WHAT DOES THAT SAY AS A MAN,HUSBAND AND FATHER BUT MOST OF HE SINNED BEFORE THE LORD REMEMBER GOD KNOWS AND SEE ALL THINGS AND GOD WAS WATHCHING ALL ALONG WHATS DONE IN THE DARKK WILL COME TO THE LIGHT HOPEFULLY THE WOMEN IS NOT PREGNANT!
Rank: New User
June 25th, 2009 10:35 AM
I thought it was VIRGINIA that was for lovers, not South Carolina! In any event, it's easy to confuse Appalachia with Argentina...they both have vast expanses of unexplored wilderness, like Sanford's soul. Here, this is a good lesson: http://www.zazzle.com/south_carolina_gov_mark_sanford_shirt-235949377168700857
June 25th, 2009 10:30 AM
LoveWins - my apologies. I'm happy that you're a happily married woman. I don't think too many women believe they have their husband trapped just because they have children. Most women who are mothers take their role very seriously and their marriage as a commitment on the parts of both husband and wife as father and mother. You didn't state how long you've been married or if you have children (they are not "kids"). Good for you for being able shower, re-do your make-up and look like a million dollars for your husband when he gets home from work. Some of don't have that luxury. We have children who also need some attention and we have a "family" and enjoy doing things as a family in the evenings and on weekends. My husband still adores me and tells me I'm beautiful after almost 24 years of marriage and three children, even though my make-up may not be perfect at 5:00 in the afternoon, and I don't have time or the money to go to the gym every day, get cosmetic upgrades, or whatever to l
June 25th, 2009 10:20 AM
Please understand, I feel that love takes both partners - the man and the woman. However, I have met many women that say things like "he isn't getting any tonight", as if that is a threat, and then they are shocked when the man gets a mistress. My husband and I talk all the time. I know he can go online and get many women to be with him; therefore, I stay a part of his life so that he doesn't feel the need to look elsewhere. Mrs. Sanford told her husband to leave the house for 2 weeks, and then is surprised that he sought out another woman for companionship? If you know your man is good, then don't tell him to leave!
June 25th, 2009 10:16 AM
Infidelity invades marriages everyday and this situation is played out in the media due to Sanford's political office.
People cheat on their spouses, men and women, for various reasons and it is a choice to do so. It is an act of their will. No one can blame the other spouse for infidelity, one action is not the reaction of the other.
Sanford is sorry, only because he got caught, no other reasoning here, and he didn't stop seeing his mistress after his wife asked him to vacate their home to address this very issue.
The Sanfords now must determine the course of their lives as married partners and as the parents of their children. They will always remain parents of their children, whether they can work through this affair remains to be seen.
June 25th, 2009 10:12 AM
LoveWins -- Why should the wife work hard all day, whether in the home or an outside job, then be required to look good for their husband? Why is the pressure on the wife and why is it her sole responsibility to keep the spark alive? You, yourself, stated that people get married because they want to be together. That means they both share the responsibility of keeping the marriage together. The wife is not some little trophy the man has won. People with this mentality are demeaning and arrogant. "Men want to feel good and proud." Then, treat your wife like a wife. Treat your family as your loved ones. Why would a wife and family be proud of a husband/father who would rather spend time seeking his own pleasure elsewhere than at home or with his wife and family? Maybe this type of man (and LoveWins) should take a good look in the mirror and do a little soul searching. Maybe there's a reason the wife doesn't want him. This type of man is self-centered, disrespectful and totally uncari
June 25th, 2009 10:05 AM
I am not a man, I am a WOMAN - a HAPPILY MARRIED woman, who speaks to my husband daily about all aspects of our life together. We have regular relations and it is wonderful. I can't imagine spending time with anyone other than him. Then I see other women get married for reasons other than love, and they are surprised when things fail. Just because you are married with kids, that is no reason for you ladies to think you have your man trapped for life. Life is precious and women need to stop thinking they have the upper hand over their men. Love the men and do not take the love for granted!
June 25th, 2009 10:02 AM
now the republican party has become a horny party. republicans are the most hipocrats, hipochristians, and idiots party.
June 25th, 2009 9:51 AM
LoveWins is as much an idiot as Sanford. I only hope he's not married because I would bet he goes looking elsewhere for what he "obviously [was] is not getting at home." Marriage is more than just sex. Obviously, Sanford has no respect for his wife or his sons. What a terrible example he is setting for his sons; what a terrible excuse for a husband; what a terrible excuse for a father; and what a terrible excuse for a leader. The people of SC have taken a beating in the depressed economy and now to hear that their Governor was using State funds to pay for his pleasure trips to Argentina. If Sanford had taken the stimulus money, he would have been required to account for what it was used for. He probably didn't want that. Plus, the only way he was going to accept the money was to "pay off bills" -- did he mean bills generated from his extracurricular affairs or bills that weren't paid with taxpayers' money because he had already used that money for his own pleasure trips? For the sake o
June 25th, 2009 9:43 AM
A man does not have to be forced out to be with other woman...You said you always hear that wives of politicians become prima donnas and overbearing-how would you know? That statement is broad.....you can be a great, supporting, loving, and caring wife, but when a man what to cheat, he will regardless. He will find a way to do it without caring becasue at that moment all he is thinking about his hisself. Men of that caliber is selfish. They do not think about the consequences until after being caught......I feel as though if you are married and not happy, leave......most men in power think they can say and do whatever........
June 25th, 2009 9:42 AM
People should get married because they want to be together. When the love ends, it does no one any good if you dread coming home. It sure doesn't help the kids when they see two people who can't stand one another. Ladies, take time for your husbands. Don't think they want to come home and see you all homely. They don't care that you cleaned the house all day - take a shower and look nice for them! Think of ways to keep the spark alive! The men want to feel good and proud. If they are getting it at home, they will not look elsewhere!
June 25th, 2009 9:34 AM
Love Wins needs a wake up call. Men cheat. Period. They cheat, and the sooner women realize that, the less hurt they will be. They are just wired differently than women are. It doesn't matter if they are still married, or still in love with their wives, they cheat if given the opportunity. To men, it is just sex. Period. Just Sex. And they will say or do anything to have sex. Ladies, word of advise: expect it, it will happen eventually to each and every one of you. Because, after all, it is just sex.