NCobserver.. Your sentiment struck bone. I will try to put it to use in my own life. Thank you
franc black Says: July 3rd, 2009 3:57 PM
He's a good writer, and seems to be expressing himself sincerely. I guess these things do happen ... his sons will understand when they get older.
All for love Says: July 1st, 2009 10:40 PM
"Love doesn't make the world go round, love is what makes the ride worthwhile."
I am sure Mr.Sanford had a chance to be with other women in his life - given his high profile. At least from what I can conclude from the exerpts of the e-mails is that he has fallen head over heels for this other woman. She doesn't seem like a "bad" person either (she seems empathetic to the father of her children). The question is why now - at this point in their lives? Undeniably, in every persons life there will be a person (if you are lucky enough) that can stimulate all the senses within you, make you feel alive. You function better because you have this person in your life, especially because you feel like you can conquer the world! Believe me, I know. What do you do at this point? Especially if you are hitched to someone who you at some point in the past has assumed was the spark to fire your soul? Not a thing! What is done is what you deal with, but it would be sheer stupidity to deny the soul stirring "love" that you have now encountered. Every drop of blood in your veins will call that person's name.You sleep, wake, live and breathe with that person's aura. You live once, if you strongly believe you have met your soul mate, then you should GO FOR IT!!!
This doesn't mean indulging in casual sex every chance you get, If you are smart- you will know the difference.
Bug O Says: June 28th, 2009 2:08 PM
Claire: You are right. He did love her. Even Suzy Q agrees with that. The point Ms. Q brings is that his love may have been used. Maria seems to care enough to keep him loosely bound by his love, but not much else. When a woman loves someone, her emails explode. Maria's did not. I agree he was not experienced. Someone who knew what they were doing, would have walked away 7 years ago.
Really Claire, I am sorry you never got a great hot letter from a fan. Female appreciation is worth far more than female beauty.
Suzy Q Says: June 28th, 2009 1:48 PM
I agree, as a sexual woman beast, that Sanford was in love. Love his emails. I consider ‘love letters’ a sort of trophy (especially from a married guy). She was not in love with him. This Maria may have been initially awed by his power and status, but his self-cantered ramblings annoyed her. She gave, through hints of a younger ‘date’ and a future with someone else: female warning signs to ease off. Sanford was blinded by his own prestige and her casual indifference. After eight years, that’s how she emails him? She argues about ‘dearest’ to ‘beloved’ a year ago? If the tables were reversed and I loved a guy madly, and received a crappy email like “Maria’s’ I’d make sure his ligaments were tied in a Gordian knot.
Claire Says: June 28th, 2009 1:01 PM
Everyone is missing the point. This is clearly not a random adulterer as he's known this woman for 8 years and, furthermore, he seems to have fallen quite madly in love with her. I don't necessarily agree with "LoveWins", but he/she is right when he/she says that this isn't some sort of misogynistic affair where Sanford was interested in "just sex". I think alot of people here are jealous that they've never received a love note 1/2 that intense in their lives... God knows I am.
Suzy Q Says: June 28th, 2009 7:01 AM
Husbands need to be controlled and put on a leash. If he strays, I will catch him because I have my girl-friends flirt with him. One time he was close (pants down), but her text to me 'came in time'. He owes me big time for that. She still teases him and tells me. His fault, for not telling me her advances. He thinks I got radar in the house (I don’t) and GPS on his car (I do).
I could never give to my un-ttustful husband the way I give to my 'beloved' who is allowed to call me any nasty name and treat me like his pet. I know at the end of the 'pet show' I go to my own home and live my life on my terms. None of you seem to understand the sexual basic difference between a man and a woman: a man can insert it anywhere and feel good and dominant and get it off; a female needs a special 'wet-feeling’ to her partner to get that ‘give it up’ submissive release while still confident control is just arourn the corner.
Bug O Says: June 28th, 2009 4:55 AM
I love being married. My wife is wonderful and beautiful. I also love getting some fat-ugly stupid thing to fall for me. You can imagine the thrill in getting her to anything I want.
cinsere Says: June 27th, 2009 4:32 PM
Only a republican could think like the first poster. If a couple has problems then you seek wise counsel. Cheating is never the answer it only makes it worse. Most will admit this. The four sons must of really wondered why their Dad found it more satisfying to be out of the country with his lover then with them on Father's Day. I think we all know where this republican governor placed his priorities.
cinsere Says: June 27th, 2009 4:31 PM
Only a republican could think like the first poster. If a couple has problems then you seek wise counsel. Cheating is never the answer it only makes it worse. Most will admit this. The four sons must of really wondered why their Dad found it more satisfying to be out of the country with his lover then with them on Father's Day. I think we all know where this republican governor placed his priorities.
La_dee2003 Says: June 27th, 2009 2:17 PM
LoveWins ... good for you that you and your man have such a tight relationship. But darlin' ... you're either hopelessly naive or unbelievably arrogant if you think his faithfulness is based on your staying "a part of his life" or "speaking regularly" to him or even having "regular relations" with him! A man if faithful because he is committed to you/his children/his family and has a strong moral sense. The numbers of loving, caring, hard-working, attractive wives who've had their husbands cheat on them are legion! Blaming a wife for the immorality of her husband is blaming the victim! How about the kids? If the kids were "better" kids, maybe the Gov. would have thought twice about committing acts that would humiliate them and break their hearts??
Selfish people cheat, greedy people cheat, immoral people cheat. It's as simple as that. It might come as a surprise to you that many men WANT their wives and families, and WANT to have extra-marital affairs as well! Why? Because they want it ALL ... they want the excitement of the newness of sex with a "stranger" but they want the comfort and security and TRUE love of a wife and family.
Anyway, stop blaming the wives and accept the fact that the Gov. has behaved like a selfish, faithless, immoral bastard and needs to make some serious changes in his life!
smartwoman Says: June 27th, 2009 10:15 AM
I wish women would realize how much power we hold. If we all did, we would not have to put up with all this nonsense these small-minded creatures called men create. We would say no to infidelity, polygamy, affairs, degrading in music videos etc that we are put through by these men. But instead we let go of our morals and ability to stay in control and thus the rise of all these problems. Why can't we just stick together, we are all one thing...FEMALE. we are mothers and wives among many other great things!!!! Women, we hold the power, let us exercise it!!!! Say no to married men, DAMN IT!!!!!!!!
Janet Capers Says: June 26th, 2009 10:28 PM
What happens in Mr. Stanford's life is between him, God his family and persons of concern, none of us are perfect, we can make mistakes, all of us need God's grace to make it through this troublesome life, let us pray for him his family and persons of concern, when we repent our trespasses are forgiven God forgives all who repent, when we have truly repented, our Father in heaven in Jesus Christ name Help all involved to recover from this situation amen
tileesha Says: June 26th, 2009 9:52 AM
that guvnor is vry sex man id like him to be my baby daddie. oldr white men are very handsom and sexy. he did it cause so very sexy man. id bite!
pwuff Says: June 26th, 2009 9:26 AM
People! threads attract the soapbox crowd. Moralizing is fun, but let's not take this hobby so seriously. Hormones make idiots of humans. If the hormonal lightning never struck you yet (like Sanford during Bill Clinton's disgrace) then you get to talk tough and wave the flag of self-righteousness. Once it strikes, you know we are all sinners dressed in a thin veneer of moral superiority.
Keith Says: June 25th, 2009 10:08 PM
I haven't seen the misstress but she's probably hot. I remember back in my Army days a drill sgt, who looked like Howdy Duddy except with buckedteeth, was caught in the shower with three of the hottest recruits in the company. He was almost 40, always had this nasty body odor and bad breath but yet, here he was in the shower with three centerfolds. How did this happen? Well, chicks are suckers for people in positions of power. A drill sgt was a God, this politician simply doing what all of them will eventually do; play God over so awestruck person. Same a catholic priests and others who prey on kids for their own gratifications. It's not the wife fault, he probably figured he'd get his grove on with this hot fantasy girl and then move on quitely. Ever ask yourself why Monica kept the "dress"? It was so Bill couldn't deny her bragging rights. This mistress will be the most famous person in her country for the next several years. She'll get a new boyfriend and then the press will cover that, etc... Ever ask yourself why Charles ended up with Diana of Wales? It wasn't by his looks. The big eared gaaloot couldn't score a decent woman if his nuts depended on it. Anyway, it's all about power, guys use it to get the girl... no matter what they got at home, they just want more.
mythoughts Says: June 25th, 2009 10:05 PM
It appears that many of you are blaming his wife. I guess it was Hillary's fault....also Jackie Kennedy's fault...etc. Get your heads out of the sand. Don't insult the poor wife. She has done nothing wrong. He and his mistress are the guilty parties. Forbidden sex in an exotic setting is so much more exciting than a roll in the hay with the mother of your four children.
How about some honesty? Says: June 25th, 2009 9:51 PM
"Just the truth," when a hetersexual man cheats, he cheats with a woman. Sounds like women cheat, too.
Disgusted Says: June 25th, 2009 8:39 PM
Instead of condemning this man, you, especially LoveWins, are blaming the wife! Outrageous! You know NOTHING about their marital life, but hey, let's blame the wife, right?
Since LoveWins (LW) makes assumptions about people she doesn't know, I'm going to do the same with LW. I'm going to assume that LW is merely a trophy wife and has nothing else to offer to the relationship, which is why she speaks the way that she does. Most women I know are career-oriented AND run the house AND realize sex is just ONE component of a marriage and not all of it.
Marilyn Worley Says: June 25th, 2009 7:50 PM
The affair that Mark Sanford has been having in my opinion started 8 years ago, not just when he started having sexual relations with this woman. It was an affair of the heart!! That would almost be worse for me to accept that if he'd gone off with a prostitute. He fell in love with this woman. They were sharing things that he should have been sharing with his wife. Married men should NOT be communicating with other women on that level unless their wives know ALL about it. I'm not his judge or jury and I know God has already forgiven him so so do I. I will pray that he and his family will get through this somehow for the sake of those 4 beautiful boys.
to LoveWins Says: June 25th, 2009 7:11 PM
You make it seem like it's the wife's fault he went out and did this. Stop blaming the victim. What kind of man would do so recklessly put his children under this kind of stress? He's just a selfish, immature guy. LoveWins, stop being an apologist for this man. I'm starting to wonder if maybe your current husband was once a cheater, you got him, and so now you defend Sanford?
cheatedon Says: June 25th, 2009 4:29 PM
it is just sickening, what he has done to his wife and boys! then in the emails, he MENTIONS his wife by name and quotes bible verses about "love"??? The final insult is that he says he didn't need love 15 years ago (e.g. the start of his political career) but DOES need it now? I feel so sorry for his younger than 15 year old boys who are now told they were conceived without any love!!! My spouse cheated 2x, but we've been able to move on. It is just horrendous!
Charlie Says: June 25th, 2009 3:45 PM
The big hypocrite! This bum could be all over Bill Clinton, but now does the same things. He should resign in total disgrace. Oh, I'm sorry, he's a southern right-wing born again follower of Cheney and Rove so he can do no wrong. Yeah, Right.
Keith Says: June 25th, 2009 3:17 PM
Here in Europe these guys know that politicians are the bottom of the barrel. If they were such hot shit they'd have honest jobs. Europeans know that a politician lies, he cheats, has affairs, dirty business dealing and take bribes for big business. At least the dude wasn't trying to screw Sarah Palin or one of her daughters (knocked up or not)! One of the main things to look out for is some jerk waving the "I'm a christian" banner. What a loser!!!
happywife Says: June 25th, 2009 3:08 PM
LoveWins -- your comments were fascinating. Funny thing -- first I thought you were a man, and I was miffed by your first posting. But then when I read all of your postings, I understood your position more fully, and I understood what you were trying to say. I would add to all of this: Each of us in a marriage, man and woman, needs to keep the romantic spark going. I would add to women -- don't get fat, stay in shape, and do keep yourself trim. Furthermore, read the book "French Women Don't Get Fat." I would add to men -- show your woman your love daily with words and actions. LoveWins does see some broad truths in human nature. They are facts. Readers, learn from LoveWIns instead of screeching.
July 17th, 2009 6:01 PM
NCobserver..
Your sentiment struck bone. I will try to put it to use in my own life. Thank you
July 3rd, 2009 3:57 PM
He's a good writer, and seems to be expressing himself sincerely. I guess these things do happen ... his sons will understand when they get older.
July 1st, 2009 10:40 PM
"Love doesn't make the world go round, love is what makes the ride worthwhile."
I am sure Mr.Sanford had a chance to be with other women in his life - given his high profile. At least from what I can conclude from the exerpts of the e-mails is that he has fallen head over heels for this other woman. She doesn't seem like a "bad" person either (she seems empathetic to the father of her children).
The question is why now - at this point in their lives?
Undeniably, in every persons life there will be a person (if you are lucky enough) that can stimulate all the senses within you, make you feel alive. You function better because you have this person in your life, especially because you feel like you can conquer the world! Believe me, I know.
What do you do at this point? Especially if you are hitched to someone who you at some point in the past has assumed was the spark to fire your soul?
Not a thing! What is done is what you deal with, but it would be sheer stupidity to deny the soul stirring "love" that you have now encountered. Every drop of blood in your veins will call that person's name.You sleep, wake, live and breathe with that person's aura.
You live once, if you strongly believe you have met your soul mate, then you should GO FOR IT!!!
This doesn't mean indulging in casual sex every chance you get, If you are smart- you will know the difference.
June 28th, 2009 2:08 PM
Claire: You are right. He did love her. Even Suzy Q agrees with that. The point Ms. Q brings is that his love may have been used. Maria seems to care enough to keep him loosely bound by his love, but not much else. When a woman loves someone, her emails explode. Maria's did not. I agree he was not experienced. Someone who knew what they were doing, would have walked away 7 years ago.
Really Claire, I am sorry you never got a great hot letter from a fan. Female appreciation is worth far more than female beauty.
June 28th, 2009 1:48 PM
I agree, as a sexual woman beast, that Sanford was in love. Love his emails. I consider ‘love letters’ a sort of trophy (especially from a married guy). She was not in love with him. This Maria may have been initially awed by his power and status, but his self-cantered ramblings annoyed her. She gave, through hints of a younger ‘date’ and a future with someone else: female warning signs to ease off. Sanford was blinded by his own prestige and her casual indifference. After eight years, that’s how she emails him? She argues about ‘dearest’ to ‘beloved’ a year ago? If the tables were reversed and I loved a guy madly, and received a crappy email like “Maria’s’ I’d make sure his ligaments were tied in a Gordian knot.
June 28th, 2009 1:01 PM
Everyone is missing the point. This is clearly not a random adulterer as he's known this woman for 8 years and, furthermore, he seems to have fallen quite madly in love with her. I don't necessarily agree with "LoveWins", but he/she is right when he/she says that this isn't some sort of misogynistic affair where Sanford was interested in "just sex". I think alot of people here are jealous that they've never received a love note 1/2 that intense in their lives... God knows I am.
June 28th, 2009 7:01 AM
Husbands need to be controlled and put on a leash. If he strays, I will catch him because I have my girl-friends flirt with him. One time he was close (pants down), but her text to me 'came in time'. He owes me big time for that. She still teases him and tells me. His fault, for not telling me her advances. He thinks I got radar in the house (I don’t) and GPS on his car (I do).
I could never give to my un-ttustful husband the way I give to my 'beloved' who is allowed to call me any nasty name and treat me like his pet. I know at the end of the 'pet show' I go to my own home and live my life on my terms. None of you seem to understand the sexual basic difference between a man and a woman: a man can insert it anywhere and feel good and dominant and get it off; a female needs a special 'wet-feeling’ to her partner to get that ‘give it up’ submissive release while still confident control is just arourn the corner.
June 28th, 2009 4:55 AM
I love being married. My wife is wonderful and beautiful. I also love getting some fat-ugly stupid thing to fall for me. You can imagine the thrill in getting her to anything I want.
June 27th, 2009 4:32 PM
Only a republican could think like the first poster. If a
couple has problems then you seek wise counsel. Cheating is
never the answer it only makes it worse. Most will admit this. The four sons must of really wondered why their Dad
found it more satisfying to be out of the country with his
lover then with them on Father's Day. I think we all know
where this republican governor placed his priorities.
June 27th, 2009 4:31 PM
Only a republican could think like the first poster. If a
couple has problems then you seek wise counsel. Cheating is
never the answer it only makes it worse. Most will admit this. The four sons must of really wondered why their Dad
found it more satisfying to be out of the country with his
lover then with them on Father's Day. I think we all know
where this republican governor placed his priorities.
June 27th, 2009 2:17 PM
LoveWins ... good for you that you and your man have such a tight relationship. But darlin' ... you're either hopelessly naive or unbelievably arrogant if you think his faithfulness is based on your staying "a part of his life" or "speaking regularly" to him or even having "regular relations" with him! A man if faithful because he is committed to you/his children/his family and has a strong moral sense. The numbers of loving, caring, hard-working, attractive wives who've had their husbands cheat on them are legion! Blaming a wife for the immorality of her husband is blaming the victim! How about the kids? If the kids were "better" kids, maybe the Gov. would have thought twice about committing acts that would humiliate them and break their hearts??
Selfish people cheat, greedy people cheat, immoral people cheat. It's as simple as that. It might come as a surprise to you that many men WANT their wives and families, and WANT to have extra-marital affairs as well! Why? Because they want it ALL ... they want the excitement of the newness of sex with a "stranger" but they want the comfort and security and TRUE love of a wife and family.
Anyway, stop blaming the wives and accept the fact that the Gov. has behaved like a selfish, faithless, immoral bastard and needs to make some serious changes in his life!
June 27th, 2009 10:15 AM
I wish women would realize how much power we hold. If we all did, we would not have to put up with all this nonsense these small-minded creatures called men create. We would say no to infidelity, polygamy, affairs, degrading in music videos etc that we are put through by these men. But instead we let go of our morals and ability to stay in control and thus the rise of all these problems. Why can't we just stick together, we are all one thing...FEMALE. we are mothers and wives among many other great things!!!! Women, we hold the power, let us exercise it!!!! Say no to married men, DAMN IT!!!!!!!!
June 26th, 2009 10:28 PM
What happens in Mr. Stanford's life is between him, God his
family and persons of concern, none of us are perfect, we can
make mistakes, all of us need God's grace to make it through this troublesome life, let us pray for him his family and persons of concern, when we repent our trespasses are forgiven
God forgives all who repent, when we have truly repented, our
Father in heaven in Jesus Christ name Help all involved to recover from this situation amen
June 26th, 2009 9:52 AM
that guvnor is vry sex man id like him to be my baby daddie. oldr white men are very handsom and sexy. he did it cause so very sexy man. id bite!
June 26th, 2009 9:26 AM
People! threads attract the soapbox crowd. Moralizing is fun, but let's not take this hobby so seriously. Hormones make idiots of humans. If the hormonal lightning never struck you yet (like Sanford during Bill Clinton's disgrace) then you get to talk tough and wave the flag of self-righteousness. Once it strikes, you know we are all sinners dressed in a thin veneer of moral superiority.
June 25th, 2009 10:08 PM
I haven't seen the misstress but she's probably hot. I remember back in my Army days a drill sgt, who looked like Howdy Duddy except with buckedteeth, was caught in the shower with three of the hottest recruits in the company. He was almost 40, always had this nasty body odor and bad breath but yet, here he was in the shower with three centerfolds. How did this happen? Well, chicks are suckers for people in positions of power. A drill sgt was a God, this politician simply doing what all of them will eventually do; play God over so awestruck person. Same a catholic priests and others who prey on kids for their own gratifications. It's not the wife fault, he probably figured he'd get his grove on with this hot fantasy girl and then move on quitely. Ever ask yourself why Monica kept the "dress"? It was so Bill couldn't deny her bragging rights. This mistress will be the most famous person in her country for the next several years. She'll get a new boyfriend and then the press will cover that, etc... Ever ask yourself why Charles ended up with Diana of Wales? It wasn't by his looks. The big eared gaaloot couldn't score a decent woman if his nuts depended on it. Anyway, it's all about power, guys use it to get the girl... no matter what they got at home, they just want more.
June 25th, 2009 10:05 PM
It appears that many of you are blaming his wife. I guess it was Hillary's fault....also Jackie Kennedy's fault...etc. Get your heads out of the sand. Don't insult the poor wife. She has done nothing wrong. He and his mistress are the guilty parties. Forbidden sex in an exotic setting is so much more exciting than a roll in the hay with the mother of your four children.
June 25th, 2009 9:51 PM
"Just the truth," when a hetersexual man cheats, he cheats with a woman. Sounds like women cheat, too.
June 25th, 2009 8:39 PM
Instead of condemning this man, you, especially LoveWins, are blaming the wife! Outrageous! You know NOTHING about their marital life, but hey, let's blame the wife, right?
Since LoveWins (LW) makes assumptions about people she doesn't know, I'm going to do the same with LW. I'm going to assume that LW is merely a trophy wife and has nothing else to offer to the relationship, which is why she speaks the way that she does. Most women I know are career-oriented AND run the house AND realize sex is just ONE component of a marriage and not all of it.
June 25th, 2009 7:50 PM
The affair that Mark Sanford has been having in my opinion started 8 years ago, not just when he started having sexual relations with this woman. It was an affair of the heart!! That would almost be worse for me to accept that if he'd gone off with a prostitute. He fell in love with this woman. They were sharing things that he should have been sharing with his wife. Married men should NOT be communicating with other women on that level unless their wives know ALL about it. I'm not his judge or jury and I know God has already forgiven him so so do I. I will pray that he and his family will get through this somehow for the sake of those 4 beautiful boys.
June 25th, 2009 7:11 PM
You make it seem like it's the wife's fault he went out and did this. Stop blaming the victim. What kind of man would do so recklessly put his children under this kind of stress? He's just a selfish, immature guy. LoveWins, stop being an apologist for this man. I'm starting to wonder if maybe your current husband was once a cheater, you got him, and so now you defend Sanford?
June 25th, 2009 4:29 PM
it is just sickening, what he has done to his wife and boys! then in the emails, he MENTIONS his wife by name and quotes bible verses about "love"??? The final insult is that he says he didn't need love 15 years ago (e.g. the start of his political career) but DOES need it now? I feel so sorry for his younger than 15 year old boys who are now told they were conceived without any love!!! My spouse cheated 2x, but we've been able to move on. It is just horrendous!
June 25th, 2009 3:45 PM
The big hypocrite! This bum could be all over Bill Clinton, but now does the same things. He should resign in total disgrace. Oh, I'm sorry, he's a southern right-wing born again follower of Cheney and Rove so he can do no wrong. Yeah, Right.
June 25th, 2009 3:17 PM
Here in Europe these guys know that politicians are the bottom of the barrel. If they were such hot shit they'd have honest jobs. Europeans know that a politician lies, he cheats, has affairs, dirty business dealing and take bribes for big business. At least the dude wasn't trying to screw Sarah Palin or one of her daughters (knocked up or not)! One of the main things to look out for is some jerk waving the "I'm a christian" banner. What a loser!!!
June 25th, 2009 3:08 PM
LoveWins -- your comments were fascinating. Funny thing -- first I thought you were a man, and I was miffed by your first posting. But then when I read all of your postings, I understood your position more fully, and I understood what you were trying to say. I would add to all of this: Each of us in a marriage, man and woman, needs to keep the romantic spark going. I would add to women -- don't get fat, stay in shape, and do keep yourself trim. Furthermore, read the book "French Women Don't Get Fat." I would add to men -- show your woman your love daily with words and actions. LoveWins does see some broad truths in human nature. They are facts. Readers, learn from LoveWIns instead of screeching.