Carrie Prejean: I Passed God's Test! Comments (Page 4)
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I have one question...
April 21st, 2009 12:41 PM
I have one question: Was everyone that's against gay marriage because the Bible says so also a virgin before he/she got married?
I'm honestly curious: if you have had sex before marriage, on what basis can you cite the Bible for being against gay marriage? The good book couldn't be more clear about its view on sex. I can quote numerous verses on it, if need be, but I'd really just like someone to try and correlate these views. You have absolutely no leg to stand on if you've laid in bed with someone that is not your husband/wife.
Bible Use?!?!?
April 21st, 2009 12:37 PM
Rebekah wrote: "For the Bible buff, again you have to educate yourself when it comes to God's Word, you cannot pick and choose from verses in the Bible for your your own agenda, it doesn't work that way...You know the old "eye for an eye", No Christians that I know live by that stament. "
Isn't this EXACTLY what people are doing with gay marriage?!?!? How did the person that wrote the post Rebekah is referring to "pick and choose" those verses? His/her entire point was that it's utterly insane to cite the Bible for anything it LITERALLY says because no one could live a life that way.
In the case of gay marriage, those opposed to it simply state: "It's in the Bible." That's their entire argument. Therefore, the perfectly rational question to ask is: "What about EVERYTHING else in the Bible? How, for instance, can you be against gay marriage, yet have sex before marriage?"
I couldn't agree more. You cannot pick and choose Bible verses for your own agenda. So do gay marriage opposers
GOOD FOR CARRIE PREJEAN!! I think it shows great character and honesty for her to stand by her beliefs. Strong moral beliefs is what made this country great and lack of morals is what is bringing it down.
Holly Oswalt
April 21st, 2009 12:17 PM
How dare this young women be crucified for being honest, she's not holding flaming signs against homesexuality??!
The gay movement is so ready to defend themselves in the slightest but what about everyone else?? Were not allowed to disagree or have a varying belief.PLEASE! Grow up people, i am so thankfully she had the guts to be truthful about her beliefs.
lynn
April 21st, 2009 12:16 PM
When America was banning inter-racial marriage, it was NOT God's idea of marriage. The Bible strictly says that it is between a man and a woman. If they are not christians, God still would rather them be married and not shacking up. But the real issue is: gays, lesbians, gossips, liars, cowards, and the UNBELIEVING will all perish in the lake of fire IF they do not get right with God. Time is short and Jesus will come and take His church away in the rapture, and then there will be total chaos and destruction on the earth. The end time signs and prophesies are being fulfilled at an even faster rate today-just look them up for yourself. I wouldnt be suprised if we had less that a year left on this earth. The ONLY way to heaven is through Jesus-not just a religion.
GOD LOVES YOU THE WAY YOU, BUT HE LOVES YOU TOO MUCH TO LEAVE YOU THAT WAY. GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO SAVE YOU!!
Rebekah
April 21st, 2009 12:15 PM
For the Bible buff, again you have to educate yourself when it comes to God's Word, you cannot pick and choose from verses in the Bible for your your own agenda, it doesn't work that way...You know the old "eye for an eye", No Christians that I know live by that stament. Again take a Bible course at a reputable Christian school and then you can make statements about Bible verses. Again I recommend the book "A case for Christ" by Strobel
Rebekah
April 21st, 2009 11:59 AM
First of all, religious people is not the correct term, but people of faith, people who truly believe in God's word, the Holly Bible, which states that marriage should be between a man and a woman; and the "act of homosexuality" is a sin and condemned. People today seem to think that everything is about self gratification, and because it feels right, makes you happy, and is politically correct, that’s how it should be. People should get all the information they need to understand and see clearly why Christians have strong convictions about gay marriage. Faith is not a fairy tale that ignorant people believe in, It’s real and eye opening, and it’s terribly sad that people just don’t understand and are afraid of finding out that God is real and He is our father and just like a father He does have rules, for our own good; People should be more informed before they make statements about people of faith, and their convictions. You can start with a book called “A case for Chr
Parasite Hilton
April 21st, 2009 11:58 AM
Gay marriage is not the major civil rights issue as many would like to make it to be. First why is only recently that it became a gay activist cause-celebre? Funny once the marriage tax penalty was removed, suddenly gays were being oppressed by not being able to marry. Was the oppression so bad that paying a few more in taxes made it too inconvenient to bother with? This all smacks of a highly orchestrated politics rather than an important rights issue. I do think there is a equal protection under the law issue that needs to be addressed but I do not think that the government needs to redefine marriage to satisfy this legal oversight. Marriage has been around for an awfully long time perhaps well beyond recorded history and I have never seen it referred to as gender optional. Why should we expect our government to be forced to change that in a historical eye blink because Perez Hilton thinks so?
Question, since booing seems to validate Mr. Hilton’s position, would there have been
Questions
April 21st, 2009 11:47 AM
To Common Sense - How is marriage a 'sacrament and a ritual rite' when...
a) ... Interracial couples were not allowed to marry in like 20 states, as recently as the 1960s. How does this fit into any interpretation of the bible?
b) ... two heterosexual atheists could walk into a courtroom and be married by a judge without a word regarding religion ever uttered.
It's also important to note that the original purpose of marriage was property exchange, while polygamy was common. Marriage has been redefined COUNTLESS times over the years. Only now, just because some people find it gross, do people seem to object.
In the Bible...
April 21st, 2009 11:40 AM
Many people have referred to the Bible as a reason for not believing in gay marriage. I just wanted to point out the following:
- In Exodus 21:7, it says you must sell your youngest daughter into slavery;
- In Exodus 35:2, it says anyone that works on the Sabbath should be put to death;
- In Leviticus 11:7, it says it's a sin to touch the skin of a dead pig, such as a football.
- The Bible says one must be burned for wearing clothing made from two different materials.
I assume everyone that cites the Bible in his/her gay marriage stance also follows these rules, right?
Common Sense
April 21st, 2009 11:36 AM
In order for homosexuals to be a legal couple, they can have 'civil unions' and 'civil partnerships.' There's no reason for homosexuals to fight for the word 'marriage' which is a sacrament and ritual rite. The gay community should follow Sir Elton John's example and take the high road: "Leave marriage to the heterosexuals and accept civil partnerships as the lifestyle that allows you the same basic human rights as every other citizen."
An insult to religion
April 21st, 2009 11:35 AM
To Kim - I don't think the author of he article is "diminishing someone's character because of their belief in God." I think the author is pointing to how insincere and trite it seems to equate a question at the Miss USA pageant with a test from God.
I personally agree. I think it exploits religion and is actually an insult to true believers to appear on Fox News and act like you passed some holy test just because you were asked a question.
Drew
April 21st, 2009 11:34 AM
As for the issue concerning marriage and whether it is biblical, yes. Even where atheists are concerned, if the marriage is of man and womam, it is still correct in God's eyes, because "traditional marriage" is according to God's word, whether people believe in God or not. One of the beautiful characteristics of God is that He will hold out for the hope that as many as will accept Him will do so while in this life, therefore will allow even the most devout unbeliever to seek happiness, at least that is the hope that marriage accomplishes. However, civil unions are not conducive to Scripture. It fact, is goes against the sound teachings of the Bible (see 1 Timothy 1:10).
Good For Carrie
April 21st, 2009 11:18 AM
Good for Carrie!!! It is quite refreshing these days for a young lady to stand up for her beliefs. How easy would it have been to given the answer that idiot judge wanted rather than tell the truth and suffer the backlash? It doesn't matter whether you agree with her or not. It doesn't matter if you are for or against gay marriage. The issue here is HER RIGHT to express HER OPINION/BELIEF. This is America after all, and the last time I checked, we still had freedom of speech (kinda, sorta). So HURRAY for Carrie. May God bless her for her truthfulness and faith.
Kim
April 21st, 2009 11:14 AM
It is interesting to note that the overall tone of this article somehow diminishes someone's character because of their belief in God. Mr. Hilton asked her an honest question and she responded with an honest answer, but because her opinion is not in line with our politically correct and intolerant media, she is somehow demonized for speaking her mind. At least she was brave enough to stand her ground on her beliefs and convictions, quite unlike the cowardly author of this article who has the ability to hide behind the anonymity of the internet by not even posting their name.
Complete Idiocy
April 21st, 2009 10:59 AM
To TheCatholicblogger:
Carrie is one of the bravest and more heroic women you've seen?!? Is this because you only watch reality TV or something? If you define bravery by someone essentially saying, "I was raised a certain way and can't explain my views, except to say that I haven't bothered to actually question WHY I hold these beliefs," then I really pity you.
Moreover, Carrie gave a "voice to the voiceless?!?!?!" 46 out of 50 states do NOT allow gay marriage. How, exactly, does that make anti-gay marriage folks "voiceless." Please explain.
Tom C
April 21st, 2009 10:58 AM
This is a gutsy lady! Not many would have the courage to stand up for their values at the cost she paid!
GSmitty
April 21st, 2009 10:29 AM
Thank you, Lizz! Finally a voice of reason. Yes, it's fine to admire for Carrie for sticking up for her beliefs. No, she should not be punished for disagreeing with a moron such as Perez Hilton.
But how do those that keep defining marriage ONLY in terms of the Bible explain marriages between non-Christians?
Also, anyone that uses the Bible as his/her reasoning better not have had sex before marriage or ever used a condom. The book is VERY explicit about those being sins.
also person with beliefs
April 21st, 2009 10:25 AM
I have a question for the individual(s) that said God created marriage and God defines marriage: less than 40 years ago, interracial marriages were illegal in over 15 states. In the name of equality, the courts stepped in and changed these laws. Should they not have done so because only the Bible can define marriage?
lizz
April 21st, 2009 10:25 AM
Good for her!! I'm so glad that she is still sticking by what she said and isn't being a sell out. It gets confusing when you bring the bible into it because the bible says nothing about non Christians yet they still get married. Even thought I disagree with Miss CA I think she is awesome for sticking to what she believes in and being brave!
person with beliefs
April 21st, 2009 10:02 AM
Go Miss California!!!! You apparently ARE a great representative of your state, since a MAJORITY of voters in California think the same as you do about gay marriage! Just because it doesn't agree with what some jealous gay judge thinks, it is what you know to be true and represents the majority of people in California. And by the way, the One who created marriage is The God of The Bible, so if homosexuality doesn't fit His definition, then why would you think that followers of God would allow some perverse definition to stand? Civil unions are just as binding and yet non-offensive to Christian believers. . . . I didn't see Perez Hilton worried about offending Christians.
Jane
April 21st, 2009 9:37 AM
I am so impressed with Miss Prejean! When her moment came she stood firm on her principles regardless of the cost - God defines what marriage is & she stated it clearly - Perez Hilton had NO business being a judge on the Miss USA Contest....he was only there to promote his own agenda. His question should NOT have been asked in this forum - what a lovely tribute Miss Prejean is to her faith & our God! You GO GIRL!
TheCatholicblogger
April 21st, 2009 9:27 AM
Carrie nPrejean is one of the bravest and most heroic women i've seen in a very long time! She stood up for her beliefs and didn't back down. She opposes the evils of gay marriage and Sacrificed probably what she dreamed of her whole life to show this idiotic country of ours that liberal ideals and adgendas will not be the only voice in this nation! Thank you Carrie, for giving a voice to the voiceless and a defense of marriage, the way it should be.
soulsista
April 21st, 2009 8:56 AM
Marriage is NOT a religious institution for many people. The great thing about this country is how it allows for so many different beliefs. If you want to be free to follow the bible (and you better not be having sex before marriage, if you are!), then more power to you. But are people really taking the stance that Christianity is the only acceptable - heck, the only lawful! - way to get married? That's incredibly sad, if so.
Jennifer
April 21st, 2009 8:53 AM
Exactly! This is what religious people don't seem to understand, about gay marriage or just marriage in general: LOTS of people just have civil ceremonies in a courthouse. That's all gay couples are looking for. If you are against these unions because of what the bible says, that's fine. But how can you inject your religious faith on people who don't believe the same things? Or, more importantly, how is it the government's job to do so?
April 21st, 2009 12:41 PM
I have one question: Was everyone that's against gay marriage because the Bible says so also a virgin before he/she got married?
I'm honestly curious: if you have had sex before marriage, on what basis can you cite the Bible for being against gay marriage? The good book couldn't be more clear about its view on sex. I can quote numerous verses on it, if need be, but I'd really just like someone to try and correlate these views. You have absolutely no leg to stand on if you've laid in bed with someone that is not your husband/wife.
April 21st, 2009 12:37 PM
Rebekah wrote: "For the Bible buff, again you have to educate yourself when it comes to God's Word, you cannot pick and choose from verses in the Bible for your your own agenda, it doesn't work that way...You know the old "eye for an eye", No Christians that I know live by that stament. "
Isn't this EXACTLY what people are doing with gay marriage?!?!? How did the person that wrote the post Rebekah is referring to "pick and choose" those verses? His/her entire point was that it's utterly insane to cite the Bible for anything it LITERALLY says because no one could live a life that way.
In the case of gay marriage, those opposed to it simply state: "It's in the Bible." That's their entire argument. Therefore, the perfectly rational question to ask is: "What about EVERYTHING else in the Bible? How, for instance, can you be against gay marriage, yet have sex before marriage?"
I couldn't agree more. You cannot pick and choose Bible verses for your own agenda. So do gay marriage opposers
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April 21st, 2009 12:32 PM
GOOD FOR CARRIE PREJEAN!! I think it shows great character and honesty for her to stand by her beliefs. Strong moral beliefs is what made this country great and lack of morals is what is bringing it down.
April 21st, 2009 12:17 PM
How dare this young women be crucified for being honest, she's not holding flaming signs against homesexuality??!
The gay movement is so ready to defend themselves in the slightest but what about everyone else?? Were not allowed to disagree or have a varying belief.PLEASE! Grow up people, i am so thankfully she had the guts to be truthful about her beliefs.
April 21st, 2009 12:16 PM
When America was banning inter-racial marriage, it was NOT God's idea of marriage. The Bible strictly says that it is between a man and a woman. If they are not christians, God still would rather them be married and not shacking up. But the real issue is: gays, lesbians, gossips, liars, cowards, and the UNBELIEVING will all perish in the lake of fire IF they do not get right with God. Time is short and Jesus will come and take His church away in the rapture, and then there will be total chaos and destruction on the earth. The end time signs and prophesies are being fulfilled at an even faster rate today-just look them up for yourself. I wouldnt be suprised if we had less that a year left on this earth. The ONLY way to heaven is through Jesus-not just a religion.
GOD LOVES YOU THE WAY YOU, BUT HE LOVES YOU TOO MUCH TO LEAVE YOU THAT WAY. GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO SAVE YOU!!
April 21st, 2009 12:15 PM
For the Bible buff, again you have to educate yourself when it comes to God's Word, you cannot pick and choose from verses in the Bible for your your own agenda, it doesn't work that way...You know the old "eye for an eye", No Christians that I know live by that stament. Again take a Bible course at a reputable Christian school and then you can make statements about Bible verses. Again I recommend the book "A case for Christ" by Strobel
April 21st, 2009 11:59 AM
First of all, religious people is not the correct term, but people of faith, people who truly believe in God's word, the Holly Bible, which states that marriage should be between a man and a woman; and the "act of homosexuality" is a sin and condemned. People today seem to think that everything is about self gratification, and because it feels right, makes you happy, and is politically correct, that’s how it should be. People should get all the information they need to understand and see clearly why Christians have strong convictions about gay marriage. Faith is not a fairy tale that ignorant people believe in, It’s real and eye opening, and it’s terribly sad that people just don’t understand and are afraid of finding out that God is real and He is our father and just like a father He does have rules, for our own good; People should be more informed before they make statements about people of faith, and their convictions. You can start with a book called “A case for Chr
April 21st, 2009 11:58 AM
Gay marriage is not the major civil rights issue as many would like to make it to be. First why is only recently that it became a gay activist cause-celebre? Funny once the marriage tax penalty was removed, suddenly gays were being oppressed by not being able to marry. Was the oppression so bad that paying a few more in taxes made it too inconvenient to bother with? This all smacks of a highly orchestrated politics rather than an important rights issue. I do think there is a equal protection under the law issue that needs to be addressed but I do not think that the government needs to redefine marriage to satisfy this legal oversight. Marriage has been around for an awfully long time perhaps well beyond recorded history and I have never seen it referred to as gender optional. Why should we expect our government to be forced to change that in a historical eye blink because Perez Hilton thinks so?
Question, since booing seems to validate Mr. Hilton’s position, would there have been
April 21st, 2009 11:47 AM
To Common Sense - How is marriage a 'sacrament and a ritual rite' when...
a) ... Interracial couples were not allowed to marry in like 20 states, as recently as the 1960s. How does this fit into any interpretation of the bible?
b) ... two heterosexual atheists could walk into a courtroom and be married by a judge without a word regarding religion ever uttered.
It's also important to note that the original purpose of marriage was property exchange, while polygamy was common. Marriage has been redefined COUNTLESS times over the years. Only now, just because some people find it gross, do people seem to object.
April 21st, 2009 11:40 AM
Many people have referred to the Bible as a reason for not believing in gay marriage. I just wanted to point out the following:
- In Exodus 21:7, it says you must sell your youngest daughter into slavery;
- In Exodus 35:2, it says anyone that works on the Sabbath should be put to death;
- In Leviticus 11:7, it says it's a sin to touch the skin of a dead pig, such as a football.
- The Bible says one must be burned for wearing clothing made from two different materials.
I assume everyone that cites the Bible in his/her gay marriage stance also follows these rules, right?
April 21st, 2009 11:36 AM
In order for homosexuals to be a legal couple, they can have 'civil unions' and 'civil partnerships.' There's no reason for homosexuals to fight for the word 'marriage' which is a sacrament and ritual rite. The gay community should follow Sir Elton John's example and take the high road: "Leave marriage to the heterosexuals and accept civil partnerships as the lifestyle that allows you the same basic human rights as every other citizen."
April 21st, 2009 11:35 AM
To Kim - I don't think the author of he article is "diminishing someone's character because of their belief in God." I think the author is pointing to how insincere and trite it seems to equate a question at the Miss USA pageant with a test from God.
I personally agree. I think it exploits religion and is actually an insult to true believers to appear on Fox News and act like you passed some holy test just because you were asked a question.
April 21st, 2009 11:34 AM
As for the issue concerning marriage and whether it is biblical, yes. Even where atheists are concerned, if the marriage is of man and womam, it is still correct in God's eyes, because "traditional marriage" is according to God's word, whether people believe in God or not. One of the beautiful characteristics of God is that He will hold out for the hope that as many as will accept Him will do so while in this life, therefore will allow even the most devout unbeliever to seek happiness, at least that is the hope that marriage accomplishes. However, civil unions are not conducive to Scripture. It fact, is goes against the sound teachings of the Bible (see 1 Timothy 1:10).
April 21st, 2009 11:18 AM
Good for Carrie!!! It is quite refreshing these days for a young lady to stand up for her beliefs. How easy would it have been to given the answer that idiot judge wanted rather than tell the truth and suffer the backlash? It doesn't matter whether you agree with her or not. It doesn't matter if you are for or against gay marriage. The issue here is HER RIGHT to express HER OPINION/BELIEF. This is America after all, and the last time I checked, we still had freedom of speech (kinda, sorta). So HURRAY for Carrie. May God bless her for her truthfulness and faith.
April 21st, 2009 11:14 AM
It is interesting to note that the overall tone of this article somehow diminishes someone's character because of their belief in God. Mr. Hilton asked her an honest question and she responded with an honest answer, but because her opinion is not in line with our politically correct and intolerant media, she is somehow demonized for speaking her mind. At least she was brave enough to stand her ground on her beliefs and convictions, quite unlike the cowardly author of this article who has the ability to hide behind the anonymity of the internet by not even posting their name.
April 21st, 2009 10:59 AM
To TheCatholicblogger:
Carrie is one of the bravest and more heroic women you've seen?!? Is this because you only watch reality TV or something? If you define bravery by someone essentially saying, "I was raised a certain way and can't explain my views, except to say that I haven't bothered to actually question WHY I hold these beliefs," then I really pity you.
Moreover, Carrie gave a "voice to the voiceless?!?!?!" 46 out of 50 states do NOT allow gay marriage. How, exactly, does that make anti-gay marriage folks "voiceless." Please explain.
April 21st, 2009 10:58 AM
This is a gutsy lady! Not many would have the courage to stand up for their values at the cost she paid!
April 21st, 2009 10:29 AM
Thank you, Lizz! Finally a voice of reason. Yes, it's fine to admire for Carrie for sticking up for her beliefs. No, she should not be punished for disagreeing with a moron such as Perez Hilton.
But how do those that keep defining marriage ONLY in terms of the Bible explain marriages between non-Christians?
Also, anyone that uses the Bible as his/her reasoning better not have had sex before marriage or ever used a condom. The book is VERY explicit about those being sins.
April 21st, 2009 10:25 AM
I have a question for the individual(s) that said God created marriage and God defines marriage: less than 40 years ago, interracial marriages were illegal in over 15 states. In the name of equality, the courts stepped in and changed these laws. Should they not have done so because only the Bible can define marriage?
April 21st, 2009 10:25 AM
Good for her!! I'm so glad that she is still sticking by what she said and isn't being a sell out. It gets confusing when you bring the bible into it because the bible says nothing about non Christians yet they still get married. Even thought I disagree with Miss CA I think she is awesome for sticking to what she believes in and being brave!
April 21st, 2009 10:02 AM
Go Miss California!!!! You apparently ARE a great representative of your state, since a MAJORITY of voters in California think the same as you do about gay marriage! Just because it doesn't agree with what some jealous gay judge thinks, it is what you know to be true and represents the majority of people in California. And by the way, the One who created marriage is The God of The Bible, so if homosexuality doesn't fit His definition, then why would you think that followers of God would allow some perverse definition to stand? Civil unions are just as binding and yet non-offensive to Christian believers. . . . I didn't see Perez Hilton worried about offending Christians.
April 21st, 2009 9:37 AM
I am so impressed with Miss Prejean! When her moment came she stood firm on her principles regardless of the cost - God defines what marriage is & she stated it clearly - Perez Hilton had NO business being a judge on the Miss USA Contest....he was only there to promote his own agenda. His question should NOT have been asked in this forum - what a lovely tribute Miss Prejean is to her faith & our God! You GO GIRL!
April 21st, 2009 9:27 AM
Carrie nPrejean is one of the bravest and most heroic women i've seen in a very long time! She stood up for her beliefs and didn't back down. She opposes the evils of gay marriage and Sacrificed probably what she dreamed of her whole life to show this idiotic country of ours that liberal ideals and adgendas will not be the only voice in this nation! Thank you Carrie, for giving a voice to the voiceless and a defense of marriage, the way it should be.
April 21st, 2009 8:56 AM
Marriage is NOT a religious institution for many people. The great thing about this country is how it allows for so many different beliefs. If you want to be free to follow the bible (and you better not be having sex before marriage, if you are!), then more power to you. But are people really taking the stance that Christianity is the only acceptable - heck, the only lawful! - way to get married? That's incredibly sad, if so.
April 21st, 2009 8:53 AM
Exactly! This is what religious people don't seem to understand, about gay marriage or just marriage in general: LOTS of people just have civil ceremonies in a courthouse. That's all gay couples are looking for. If you are against these unions because of what the bible says, that's fine. But how can you inject your religious faith on people who don't believe the same things? Or, more importantly, how is it the government's job to do so?