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April 21st, 2009 1:21 PM
Yes, you are correct that it was passed through the Vermont state legislature. However, in repsose to your next comment, to me, it isn't so much a matter of unions between people of the same-sex but what can and will happen is opening the flood gates to any other marriage possibility. Where do we end it? the "union" between child and adult? How about Father and daughter? Let's go with bigamy. As long as two or three or four people will state they love eachother. Right?
I probably we be called taking this too far but why would these other "unions" not have the ability to ask for the same treatment?
April 21st, 2009 1:22 PM
Rebekah (and many others) - You're missing the larger point of the gay marriage issue: it's perfectly fine for you to be against it, based on the Bible.
But how does that relate to state laws? Not everyone is Christian, not everyone gets married in a church. What about a gay couple - or, heck a heterosexual couple - that simply has a civil ceremony inside a courtroom? This is all they are fighting for.
I am not talking about state laws, am I against it? Oh yea...
I'm talking about a small minority of homosexuals 4% of the country
April 21st, 2009 1:27 PM
Bless you Rebekah for pointing out that fact. we cater to a massive minority.
Though the number is actually 1.51% or 4.3M of the US population is homosexual, lesbian or bisexual as a lifestyle
April 21st, 2009 1:35 PM
Rebekah wrote: "I can't emphasize enough that The Good Book was left for us, so we understand what God wants for us, from us. It wasn't left as a reference book."
Thank you, this sounds reasonable and I agree. But it begs the question: How, then, can the Bible be used as a basis to pass laws? It's great that you gets what you get from the Bible, it really is. But, as you say about it NOT being literal or a reference book, how can it then be cited as any kind of source when it comes to a question of legal marriage?
If your point is that you, personally, are against gay marriage, thats fine. It also has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
April 21st, 2009 1:36 PM
I am not talking about state laws, am I against it? Oh yea...
I'm talking about a small minority of homosexuals, 4% of the country that are trying to push their beliefs through the liberal media onto the rest of the country by bullying Christians like Miss California. These days its a crime to state your Christian beliefs in public, but it okay idolize Homosexuals.They want so badly to be accepted, they need to feel right, and that's because they feel like damaged goods,it might become the norm but will never be the way that God intented for all of us. Nothing is going to change that unnatural feeling,not even all the laws in this world the only one that can give them that peaful feeling they're looking for is God.
April 21st, 2009 1:40 PM
Brandon - First, how is the gay minority being "catered" to? 46 out of 50 states consider gay marriage illegal. How is that catering to anyone?
Secondly, are you really judging a minority by how many of them there are? There was a very small percentage of Hispanics in this country 50 years ago and they were not allowed to marry a Caucasian. Should that law not have been overturned?
What, exactly, is the proper percentage that allows a minority to fight for equal rights?
(Let's also remember your percentages are based on gays that have come out of the closet; how many do you think exist that are afraid to, due to close-minded individuals that don't question their beliefs or their effects on others, simply citing the Bible as the end all answer to everything?)
April 21st, 2009 1:40 PM
brandon Says:
April 21st, 2009 1:27 PM
Bless you Rebekah for pointing out that fact. we cater to a massive minority.
Though the number is actually 1.51% or 4.3M of the US population is homosexual, lesbian or bisexual as a lifestyle
Thank you for the correction.
1.5%? Amazing isn't it?
April 21st, 2009 1:42 PM
It's a crime to state your Christian beliefs in public?!? George W. Bush got elected President specifically for doing this every chance he got!
April 21st, 2009 1:47 PM
Simple question, Rebekah and others: How are gays "pushing their beliefs" on to you? If they are allow to marry, how will this impact your life?
Conversely, due to your beliefs, gay couples will not be allowed to get married. Do you see the difference/hypocrisy? It's YOUR beliefs being pushed on to others because there's a tangible effect on them.
Who cares if it's 90%, 1% or .01% of the population.... it's appalling so many Christians actually want to believe something that makes others feel like they aren't worthy of equal rights? What happened to how we treat our fellow man? We can only treat him well if he subscribe to everything we subscribe to. God, I hope not.
April 21st, 2009 1:50 PM
To:question4Rebekah Says
I'm sorry I think you missed the bus(no disrespect)I was answering to a comment by another blogger,the subject at hand is...THE GAY AGENDA AGAINST PEOPLE OF FAITH!Thanks for the comment.
April 21st, 2009 1:57 PM
April 21st, 2009 12:43 PM
People, this isn't an issue of free speech. Carrie was in a beauty pageant with JUDGES. The ENTIRE point of the pageant is to judge contestants on everything from swim suits to their interview answers. Sure, Carrie spoke her mind and that's great... but then the judges get to, you know, JUDGE her for it. That's the definition of a beauty pageant.
The definition of a beauty pageant? Ok first of all why do they have a gay guy judging beautiful women...Shouldn't they have a bunch of twenty-year-old guys over there?...Giggles...ok just kidding.
April 21st, 2009 2:00 PM
By saying that they are being "catered" to is obvious. If it isn't please present another group that has 4.3M in its population that has a voice as loud as the GBLT. Just one please. ok how about 10M? 20? exactly. The GBLT has an amazingly loud voice that has many supporters as well and if you don't support them .... well ... you are a facist, racist, close-minded buffon.
On your question of who deserves equal rights based off of population is a stretch to say the least. No one said they couldn't be gay. No one said they couldn't live a long happy life with the right to pursue happiness. If you are basing "equal rights" simply because of the marriage question I guess there are many who are opressed in this country, not just the GBLT. I also, noticed you totallyignored the statements of who else who will be calling for "equal rights of marriage".
April 21st, 2009 2:09 PM
Brandon, you don't pass laws or not pass laws because they are "slippery slopes." That's not the role of a court. You judge each case on its own merit. You can't imagine hypothetical situations as an argument against a current, tangible situation.
And if the GBLT has organized a strong voice for itself, good for them. This somehow means their rights aren't worthy of minorities with a larger percentage of the population?
April 21st, 2009 2:14 PM
How refreshing to hear someone stand up for their beliefs,too many fear the backlash of the PC brigade.
April 21st, 2009 2:20 PM
I believe... Says:
April 21st, 2009 1:47 PM
Simple question, Rebekah and others: How are gays "pushing their beliefs" on to you? If they are allow to marry, how will this impact your life?
Let's see...TV, media, in elementary schools(two mommies or two daddies are okay),naked gay parades in NYC, want more?
I have four beautiful children that are pure and innocent,and I want them to stay like that as much as possible.I thank God that we are able to send them to a christian school and I've been able to keep them away from everything that's immoral with this world. when they are older they will know right from wrong, but that is not enough I also want a better world for my children's future. Society will become desensitized to immoral behavior,
and that's the agenda, to get used to it, it feels good so it's okay...no it's a sin.
April 21st, 2009 2:30 PM
Way to shield your children from the real world and teach them that two people being in love is not enough of a reason to get married, Rebekah.
April 21st, 2009 2:38 PM
Absolutely not. I encourage any group or organization that can push forward their cause. The GBLT would be great if people were allowed to have their own opinion and let it stand . Agree to disagree. Unfortunately that isn't the case sense when you disagree with many groups for gay rights you are seen as short-sided or in this case with Carrie Prejean called a dumb B**** by the guy who asked the question. Why? becaue she stated her beliefs and didn't answer the way he would have preferred. It is ridiculous.
Having an opinion is exactly that. Here in California before proposition 8 was passed signs for "Yes on 8" were destroyed. Houses with the signs in their yard were vandalized. People who held signs to promote their OPINION of "yes on 8" were ridiculed and assaulted.
It is asked for equality as long as we agree with you. It is an opinion and, yes, it affects lives, but within the United States, the popular vote wins. That is how it works.
April 21st, 2009 2:39 PM
short-sighted. i apologize for grammatical errors.
April 21st, 2009 2:50 PM
I don't have a problem with civil unions.
To answer the question "how can it then be cited as any kind of source when it comes to a question of legal marriage?"
This country was founded on Christian principles,no wonder it's been such a great country, a country to be proud of,but to answer your question our founders were believers and they understood the essence of God's word, and they wanted this country to have among other things strong and good moral values and that's why it still influences the laws today.Unfortunally liberal minds are fighting hard to change our principles and weaken our country.
April 21st, 2009 2:51 PM
I commend Carrie Prejean for "Keeping it real" and giving an opinion which obviously the majority of the voters of the great State of California believe in! I'm sick of these politically correct "Harvey Milk" types forcing us to watch what we say. Many brave soldiers gave their lives for these semen gargling idiots to be free to say and do as they please. Carri can give an opinion and not have to worry about the popular answer! You did an outstanding job representing California! Always keep it real!
April 21st, 2009 2:53 PM
How sad... Says:
April 21st, 2009 2:30 PM
Way to shield your children from the real world and teach them that two people being in love is not enough of a reason to get married, Rebekah.
Actually we are a very blessed family, we are not perfect, but perfectly happy. I'll pray for you. Take care
April 21st, 2009 3:09 PM
There you have it folks. Miss USA will always be chosen on political and religious viewpoints. Forget the talent and beauty portion of the show. I applaud Carrie Prejean for standing firm to her opinion no matter what the cost. It is no longer popular being a Christian in America. This country has largely lost its moral compass. To Carrie Prejean, I say thank you and God bless you. I found your courage inspirational. America needs more people like you. It's Perez Hilton who made a fool of himself going on an emotional tirade on the Internet and slandering her name until he was blue in the face.
April 21st, 2009 3:38 PM
I am so proud of Miss California! Perez Hilton should not have asked the question if he did not want to hear the answer. This is so typical of what is happening all over the world today, people get upset and try to "punish" the person if they do not like the way they respond to them. I am so thankful she had enough nerve and guts to stand for what she knows is right and what she believes in. I knew when she answered as she did he would try to "make her pay" for that answer. These questions are SUPPOSED to be their opinion and not what someone else thinks or wants to hear. It is such a shame that even the pageants are having to worry about being politically correct instead of giving their honest opinion. She will be rewarded for the stand she took and that is all that matters to her now.
April 21st, 2009 3:47 PM
Go Carrie!
Everyone on this board can go back and forth with Bible talk but at the end of the day this girl stood up for what she believed in. Simple as that. She wasn't trying to offend anyone, nor was she trying to push her views on anyone either. She was simply stating what she believed based of the question that was asked.
I live the more traditional life - married to a man - however it two homosexual individuals want to get married that's their business. I don't feel our country has a right to put a stamp on it and decide that for them.
At the end of the day, I could not be more happier for Carrie. She did the right thing and said exactly what she felt. The media and Perez H. are taking this way too far. It is what it is - move on. Let's celebrate who won Miss USA now!
April 21st, 2009 3:55 PM
1.Corinthians 6:9,10