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April 21st, 2009 10:25 AM
I have a question for the individual(s) that said God created marriage and God defines marriage: less than 40 years ago, interracial marriages were illegal in over 15 states. In the name of equality, the courts stepped in and changed these laws. Should they not have done so because only the Bible can define marriage?
April 21st, 2009 10:29 AM
Thank you, Lizz! Finally a voice of reason. Yes, it's fine to admire for Carrie for sticking up for her beliefs. No, she should not be punished for disagreeing with a moron such as Perez Hilton.
But how do those that keep defining marriage ONLY in terms of the Bible explain marriages between non-Christians?
Also, anyone that uses the Bible as his/her reasoning better not have had sex before marriage or ever used a condom. The book is VERY explicit about those being sins.
April 21st, 2009 10:58 AM
This is a gutsy lady! Not many would have the courage to stand up for their values at the cost she paid!
April 21st, 2009 10:59 AM
To TheCatholicblogger:
Carrie is one of the bravest and more heroic women you've seen?!? Is this because you only watch reality TV or something? If you define bravery by someone essentially saying, "I was raised a certain way and can't explain my views, except to say that I haven't bothered to actually question WHY I hold these beliefs," then I really pity you.
Moreover, Carrie gave a "voice to the voiceless?!?!?!" 46 out of 50 states do NOT allow gay marriage. How, exactly, does that make anti-gay marriage folks "voiceless." Please explain.
April 21st, 2009 11:14 AM
It is interesting to note that the overall tone of this article somehow diminishes someone's character because of their belief in God. Mr. Hilton asked her an honest question and she responded with an honest answer, but because her opinion is not in line with our politically correct and intolerant media, she is somehow demonized for speaking her mind. At least she was brave enough to stand her ground on her beliefs and convictions, quite unlike the cowardly author of this article who has the ability to hide behind the anonymity of the internet by not even posting their name.
April 21st, 2009 11:18 AM
Good for Carrie!!! It is quite refreshing these days for a young lady to stand up for her beliefs. How easy would it have been to given the answer that idiot judge wanted rather than tell the truth and suffer the backlash? It doesn't matter whether you agree with her or not. It doesn't matter if you are for or against gay marriage. The issue here is HER RIGHT to express HER OPINION/BELIEF. This is America after all, and the last time I checked, we still had freedom of speech (kinda, sorta). So HURRAY for Carrie. May God bless her for her truthfulness and faith.
April 21st, 2009 11:34 AM
As for the issue concerning marriage and whether it is biblical, yes. Even where atheists are concerned, if the marriage is of man and womam, it is still correct in God's eyes, because "traditional marriage" is according to God's word, whether people believe in God or not. One of the beautiful characteristics of God is that He will hold out for the hope that as many as will accept Him will do so while in this life, therefore will allow even the most devout unbeliever to seek happiness, at least that is the hope that marriage accomplishes. However, civil unions are not conducive to Scripture. It fact, is goes against the sound teachings of the Bible (see 1 Timothy 1:10).
April 21st, 2009 11:35 AM
To Kim - I don't think the author of he article is "diminishing someone's character because of their belief in God." I think the author is pointing to how insincere and trite it seems to equate a question at the Miss USA pageant with a test from God.
I personally agree. I think it exploits religion and is actually an insult to true believers to appear on Fox News and act like you passed some holy test just because you were asked a question.
April 21st, 2009 11:36 AM
In order for homosexuals to be a legal couple, they can have 'civil unions' and 'civil partnerships.' There's no reason for homosexuals to fight for the word 'marriage' which is a sacrament and ritual rite. The gay community should follow Sir Elton John's example and take the high road: "Leave marriage to the heterosexuals and accept civil partnerships as the lifestyle that allows you the same basic human rights as every other citizen."
April 21st, 2009 11:40 AM
Many people have referred to the Bible as a reason for not believing in gay marriage. I just wanted to point out the following:
- In Exodus 21:7, it says you must sell your youngest daughter into slavery;
- In Exodus 35:2, it says anyone that works on the Sabbath should be put to death;
- In Leviticus 11:7, it says it's a sin to touch the skin of a dead pig, such as a football.
- The Bible says one must be burned for wearing clothing made from two different materials.
I assume everyone that cites the Bible in his/her gay marriage stance also follows these rules, right?
April 21st, 2009 11:47 AM
To Common Sense - How is marriage a 'sacrament and a ritual rite' when...
a) ... Interracial couples were not allowed to marry in like 20 states, as recently as the 1960s. How does this fit into any interpretation of the bible?
b) ... two heterosexual atheists could walk into a courtroom and be married by a judge without a word regarding religion ever uttered.
It's also important to note that the original purpose of marriage was property exchange, while polygamy was common. Marriage has been redefined COUNTLESS times over the years. Only now, just because some people find it gross, do people seem to object.
April 21st, 2009 11:58 AM
Gay marriage is not the major civil rights issue as many would like to make it to be. First why is only recently that it became a gay activist cause-celebre? Funny once the marriage tax penalty was removed, suddenly gays were being oppressed by not being able to marry. Was the oppression so bad that paying a few more in taxes made it too inconvenient to bother with? This all smacks of a highly orchestrated politics rather than an important rights issue. I do think there is a equal protection under the law issue that needs to be addressed but I do not think that the government needs to redefine marriage to satisfy this legal oversight. Marriage has been around for an awfully long time perhaps well beyond recorded history and I have never seen it referred to as gender optional. Why should we expect our government to be forced to change that in a historical eye blink because Perez Hilton thinks so?
Question, since booing seems to validate Mr. Hilton’s position, would there have been booing if she had answered it the other way? What if it was even louder? Would it still have cost her the title? I am not sure but there would have been booing. There is no question about that. That was an unfair polarizing question that he asked for his own political reason. He is the one that should be sanctioned.
April 21st, 2009 11:59 AM
First of all, religious people is not the correct term, but people of faith, people who truly believe in God's word, the Holly Bible, which states that marriage should be between a man and a woman; and the "act of homosexuality" is a sin and condemned. People today seem to think that everything is about self gratification, and because it feels right, makes you happy, and is politically correct, that’s how it should be. People should get all the information they need to understand and see clearly why Christians have strong convictions about gay marriage. Faith is not a fairy tale that ignorant people believe in, It’s real and eye opening, and it’s terribly sad that people just don’t understand and are afraid of finding out that God is real and He is our father and just like a father He does have rules, for our own good; People should be more informed before they make statements about people of faith, and their convictions. You can start with a book called “A case for Christ” by Strobel. It’s enlightening!
I'm proud of Miss California, I wish more people like her would speak up. I'm happy that we still have freedom of speech in this country, and it's sad to see that gay extremists like perez hilton think that the freedom is only acceptable when it feels right and comfy, that it only works for their gay agenda but not for people of faith. Double standard ? You think?
P.S. There are many thinks in the world that makes people "happy" and that doesn't mean that it's right!
April 21st, 2009 12:15 PM
For the Bible buff, again you have to educate yourself when it comes to God's Word, you cannot pick and choose from verses in the Bible for your your own agenda, it doesn't work that way...You know the old "eye for an eye", No Christians that I know live by that stament. Again take a Bible course at a reputable Christian school and then you can make statements about Bible verses. Again I recommend the book "A case for Christ" by Strobel
April 21st, 2009 12:16 PM
When America was banning inter-racial marriage, it was NOT God's idea of marriage. The Bible strictly says that it is between a man and a woman. If they are not christians, God still would rather them be married and not shacking up. But the real issue is: gays, lesbians, gossips, liars, cowards, and the UNBELIEVING will all perish in the lake of fire IF they do not get right with God. Time is short and Jesus will come and take His church away in the rapture, and then there will be total chaos and destruction on the earth. The end time signs and prophesies are being fulfilled at an even faster rate today-just look them up for yourself. I wouldnt be suprised if we had less that a year left on this earth. The ONLY way to heaven is through Jesus-not just a religion.
GOD LOVES YOU THE WAY YOU, BUT HE LOVES YOU TOO MUCH TO LEAVE YOU THAT WAY. GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO SAVE YOU!!
April 21st, 2009 12:17 PM
How dare this young women be crucified for being honest, she's not holding flaming signs against homesexuality??!
The gay movement is so ready to defend themselves in the slightest but what about everyone else?? Were not allowed to disagree or have a varying belief.PLEASE! Grow up people, i am so thankfully she had the guts to be truthful about her beliefs.
April 21st, 2009 12:32 PM
GOOD FOR CARRIE PREJEAN!! I think it shows great character and honesty for her to stand by her beliefs. Strong moral beliefs is what made this country great and lack of morals is what is bringing it down.
April 21st, 2009 12:37 PM
Rebekah wrote: "For the Bible buff, again you have to educate yourself when it comes to God's Word, you cannot pick and choose from verses in the Bible for your your own agenda, it doesn't work that way...You know the old "eye for an eye", No Christians that I know live by that stament. "
Isn't this EXACTLY what people are doing with gay marriage?!?!? How did the person that wrote the post Rebekah is referring to "pick and choose" those verses? His/her entire point was that it's utterly insane to cite the Bible for anything it LITERALLY says because no one could live a life that way.
In the case of gay marriage, those opposed to it simply state: "It's in the Bible." That's their entire argument. Therefore, the perfectly rational question to ask is: "What about EVERYTHING else in the Bible? How, for instance, can you be against gay marriage, yet have sex before marriage?"
I couldn't agree more. You cannot pick and choose Bible verses for your own agenda. So do gay marriage opposers want to use any rational, non-biblical arguments to defend their stance? Or is the only ammunition you posses related to the Bible, which also is FOR slavery and says Noah, literally, built an ark for every species of animal on the planet.
April 21st, 2009 12:41 PM
I have one question: Was everyone that's against gay marriage because the Bible says so also a virgin before he/she got married?
I'm honestly curious: if you have had sex before marriage, on what basis can you cite the Bible for being against gay marriage? The good book couldn't be more clear about its view on sex. I can quote numerous verses on it, if need be, but I'd really just like someone to try and correlate these views. You have absolutely no leg to stand on if you've laid in bed with someone that is not your husband/wife.
April 21st, 2009 12:43 PM
People, this isn't an issue of free speech. Carrie was in a beauty pageant with JUDGES. The ENTIRE point of the pageant is to judge contestants on everything from swim suits to their interview answers. Sure, Carrie spoke her mind and that's great... but then the judges get to, you know, JUDGE her for it. That's the definition of a beauty pageant.
April 21st, 2009 12:53 PM
Thank you, you proved my point, you are argueing like a person that knows nothing about the bible because you're picking and choosing to try to prove something that you are not educated about. No, I'm not picking and choosing.Have you ever heard about Sodom and Gomorrah,those people were destroyed because of their sinfull coduct, yes they were homosexuals.You could be Albert Einstein and not have a truthful argument if you are not well informed about God's word,try it you might surprise yourself
April 21st, 2009 1:00 PM
I am very surprised in the way that the blogger decided to phrase this very short response to Carrie Prejean's actions and responses. To state that she wanted to take "part in a beauty pageant, in order to be asked a question about gay marriage". Is moronic at best. I'm sure the years she put into getting prepared for that one moment were all a play to be asked that particular question at that particular time. Right.
For others who say she immediately ran to FoxNews to tell her story is again ridiculous. IF you read the interview it was amazingly short that could have been done as a walk-by. However, due to any public controversy, of course, everyone wants to talk to the person no matter which side of the fence on any given topic it would be.
Lastly, it amazes me on how many say that same-sex marriage is "the majority of people" however if you look at the four states that have sam-sex marriage in their state: Iowa, Conneticut, Vermont and Massachusetts; all have been enforced by the state supreme courts and NOT voted in by "the people". California is arguably the most prominent liberal state in the US and did Not pass a law for same-sex marriage via "the people" in an overwhelming margain not just once but twice.
It is not just about what some people want or feel is just but we must have and adhere to what is voted on to have order. If we said "well the minority in this country voted for McCain and I would rather have McCain in office than Obama so lets get the Supreme Court to overturn Obama as President" is as dumb as changing what the people already have spoken for. We have a choice and We have a voice. Once that is removed via the minoritry opinion in this country we are lost.
April 21st, 2009 1:03 PM
To Brandon - That's incorrect. Vermont was enforced by the State Legislature, not the court.
To Rebekah - How are you not just picking and choosing verses from the Bible that support your gay marriage stance? Do you take the Bible literally? It's a simple question.
April 21st, 2009 1:11 PM
Rebekah (and many others) - You're missing the larger point of the gay marriage issue: it's perfectly fine for you to be against it, based on the Bible.
But how does that relate to state laws? Not everyone is Christian, not everyone gets married in a church. What about a gay couple - or, heck a heterosexual couple - that simply has a civil ceremony inside a courtroom? This is all they are fighting for.
April 21st, 2009 1:16 PM
I have one question: Was everyone that's against gay marriage because the Bible says so also a virgin before he/she got married?
I'm honestly curious: if you have had sex before marriage, on what basis can you cite the Bible for being against gay marriage?
I can't emphasize enough that The Good Book was left for us, so we understand what God wants for us, from us. It wasn't left as a reference book. No you cannot take everything literally, specially if you don't know what the passage is about and why it was written that way. God does teach us about being pure and holly, and yes as "crazy" as this sounds
there are people out there that follow his teachings and do wait until married to have sex. Now let's pretend atheists are right.First,wouldn't we as society want a more moral, pure society? Second, what if there is a God and the only way to get to heaven is accept Christ as your savior, and if you don't you'd spend eternity in hell, wouldn't you be at least curious what all of the Bible is about? I would. Take care and God bless you.