Hilary Duff: Goin' Goth? Comments (Page 3)

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  1. Mariana Almeida Says:

    eu nao sei se voces vao entender a lingua brasileira... eu sou Mariana... adoro hilary duff( i'm brasilian and like hilary duff).... adorei esse espacinho aki...... vou tentar dizer algo q sei em ingles... :
    Hilary is the best.. i'm love she

  2. linoyaa Says:

    i love hilary so much stay who you are don't chang you are beautiful pleas send me a masseg linoysadon1@walla.com
    love you

  3. vivian Says:

    i love hil nadie te gana no hagas caso de nada ere especial y hermosa

  4. hilary Says:

    i liked better the brown..the dark doesnt suits her well, but like u said, the inside is the important, and i like how she sings..die to your natural hilary

  5. lujain Says:

    i luv hilary duff with any look but the only thing that black hair dosen't mean you are going gothic ...even my hair is long black hair and i put a dark eyeliner and many ppl say that i look like evanescence and it dosen't means i am gothic ...

  6. nini Says:

    YOU GUYSZ KNOE THOSE R CONTACS THEY ARENT THE REAL THING..BECAUSE I REMEBER IN LIZZIE MCGUIRE SHE HAD DARK BROWN EYES ND YOU CAN TELL THOSE ARE CONTAC'S!!!

  7. nini Says:

    I HATE HILARY DUFF 2 SHE IS SUCH A B****!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ND UGLY TOO!!!!

  8. lore Says:

    hello !! i'm spanish , and looooooooooooveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee you hilary (as friend) you are very beautiful and your songs are very cool !!

  9. Shan Says:

    none of us know hillary duff personally so theres no way anyone can say shes a goth, wannabe or a bad person or whatever. you dont have to like music or her hair color but i think its rude and immature to judge someone you've never even had a conversation with. Anyways tho i think she looks beautiful with any hair but the dark is my favorite.

  10. holly Says:

    i think she looks good either way hoever agrees with me type 10

  11. Goth should be considered a legitimate culture Says:

    What is it that causes you all to assume that modifying one particular aspect of your appearance automatically justifies that the term Goth is appropriate when applied to yourself? I am a Goth and I personally agree that the dark color accentuates her features, yet I can't possibly comprehend why EVERYTHING black is considered Goth...could someone enlighten me?

    Adolescents do an excellent job of further confounding what it is that constitutes the proper application of the term Goth. It is ultimately becoming simply a teenage label reserved for anything darker in color or in nature. These are appalling, absolutely unwarranted generalizations. It is as if Goth is a trend of sorts, although perhaps I should distribute some information to those deficient in knowledge about the CULTURE, rather than the scene or phase. Who knows? Maybe then you will be satiated with accurate knowledge pertaining to a form of Goth not found much in high school, and does not involve the Ostro/VisiGoth variety.

    I had posted this on a website besides this one, and this is merely a section of what I had written. Here it is:

    "Goths are a cultural minority which emphasizes pacifism, tolerance, introspection, spirituality, morality, intellectualism, aesthetics, individualism, creativity, high-brow culture, philosophy, as well as various beliefs, values, opinions, and ideas in response to such matters. Goths often detest unreasonable social conventions to an intense degree, and are typically characterized as indignant and may engage in 'insubordinate' conduct rather than remain in accordance with standards of which are regarded as inconceivable to abide by, although it is evidently to prevent injustice on their behalf when supposed restrictions can easily be obnubilated with oppression.

    Goth will continue to exist when this ludicrous social and music scene ceases. We are the minority, yet we shall function as preservers of an immortal culture. We provide the foundation despite the fact that we do not appear to maintain influence. You must retain the fact that we are here, and we are dedicated and quite conservative (although not in relation to non-Gothic conservatives). When the youth are no longer engaged in Goth, it shall remain anyhow.

    Also, Goths consider the prevaling standards of beauty within the predominant current of thought to be absolutely appalling. As a result, there is no 'ugly.' All body types are accepted as well as other physical differences.

    Sexuality is often a topic of concern for Goths. Gays, lesbians, bisexuals, transgendered people, those who practice BDSM as well as simply standard sex...are all accepted.

    In society, a darker mindset is discouraged, although Goths understand that what is supposedly 'insane' behavior is actually the result of supressed dark thoughts. Goths assume that if darkness is expressed through art or poetry or there are simply more discussions regarding it, there will be no pent up rage or frustration which eventually results in destructive outbursts. This does not necessarily imply that Goths merely concentrate on their darker nature, they simply emphasize it more, especially through aesthetics and creative pursuits.

    I personally believe the more unconventional you appear to be, the more dedicated you are. Goth is certainly not about moderation, after all. Thick makeup, piercings, and colored hair are, in my opinion, very beautiful as well as convey a willingness to be Gothic despite persecution and hardships. Conservative Goths are usually always quite 'extreme' in appearance and being this way also promotes their self-expression, while moderation restricts it to merely being 'edgy,' and, if they are young, perhaps 'cool.'

    And here is another example of Goth, written exclusively by that of myself as well.

    "I am a Goth who cannot establish claims of an advanced age, although you cannot disregard of the Elder Goths, as they provide the foundation of the culture, which is unfortunately quite deficient in those who are willing to preserve of it. I became a Goth and modified my appearance merely 10 years ago, and I am quite content with this manner of being. It is assumed that discrimination against Goths is only a trivial and humorous matter, although it is certainly not, and a genuine Goth would remain a Goth for the duration of his or her existence, and continue to maintain the appearance as well. I cannot possibly comprehend why it is that Goth is perceived of as some sort of personal choice, rather than a source of enlightenment that people are actually devoted to, and that Goths, on the condition that they wish to cease experiencing prejudice and intolerance, should simply revert to their previous beliefs and discard of their "Gothdom," despite the fact that Goth is similiar to a religion in numerous respects, and is definitely a valid culture, although unfortunately is not very well received by the Dominant Culture and is therefore perceived as something done in jest and insincerity a.k.a. a 'phase.' When Goths complain they are simply considered 'angsty' rather than possessing an actual reason to experience such emotions in relation to the circumstances. Haven't the majority of non-Goths ever conceived of why it is that despite an unreasonable amount of discrimination that Goths confront daily they continue to espouse the beliefs and dress in black and apply 'unconventional' makeup? I am cognizant of the fact that we are not of your kind. We do not conform to identical or even similar values, yet we simply desire peace. We are a pacifistic community and therefore could never invoke this unjust treatment upon ourselves. My intention is not to convert you to my ways - I simply desire your patience in reading this. I wish to merit your company and walk amongst your kind without the lingering shame concerning who I am. I wish to accomplish what you accomplish, to simply arrive within a public location without being ridiculed. I myself possess numerous aspirations that I am unfortunately unable to achieve due to the conservative society declining my offers of contributing to civilization. Yet it is not I who shuns them in return, as certain Goths do, rather, I strive for the common good. I assist others when my assistance is needed. I recognize morals and principals, and attempt to do what is ethical in any given situation. I may perceive of such matters in an alternate manner to society, yet this desire is what all human beings share to a certain extend. It is inherent within us all, some moreso than others. Please, my friends, listen to me. I must request something of you and I shall remain grateful until I cease existing and perhaps beyond that. Distribute the information pertaining to Goth being a genuine culture. Support me in my attempts to produce increasing awareness of this matter which is significant to me. I thank you all for your time."

    And this cannot be forgotten, now can it?

    "The perception of Goth as some sort of social scene apparently does not do it justice. Goth is an anomaly of what it should be, as it is lacking foundation - as I had mentioned previously. The "Elder Goths" are often in their 20s, and it appears as though Goth is merely an extension of their youth that they are unwilling to abandon, which absolutely appalls me. The entire concept of 'youth subcultures' appalls me as well. If you integrate yourself into a culture or subculture for a purpose, why should a person's age automatically disqualify such a person from participating? Especially when there are millions of people involved worldwide rather than it being confined to a specific high school (which therefore WOULD meet the requirements essential to being considered an adolescent-oriented subculture). There is nothing specifically youth-oriented about Goth. Goths are not expected to experience antipathy towards 'preps' (who most often detest such a label and do not wish to be associated with it) and celebrate teen angst, as certain non-Goths would contend. The Gothic genre of music itself does not convey to others the inherent lack of maturity of the enthusiasts. Therefore it should be assumed that Goth is reserved for simply those who identify with it, irrespective of age. Goth is certainly not exactly what would be considered a religion in precise terms, although it could DEFINATELY be a culture, belief system, and spiritual path. For the majority of Goths who do not place emphasis on committment, there are also quite a few who do, including myself, yet these are seldomly acknowledged, which is simply awful. I am passionate as an adherent of this specific belief system, and therefore I rigidly advocate the addition of standards which permit no deviation. Therefore only the most devoted of adherents will possess the honor with which to proclaim themselves as adherents. Goths may be tolerant of others, although this is no reason to obnubilate what the term Goth is intended to refer to. After all, people are considered 'poseurs' anyhow, despite the lack of definitive standards, and as a result they should therefore be able to understand WHY others are referencing them in such a disparaging manner. The imposition of standards would eliminate confusion, although it would require the assistance of the indispensible members of the Gothic community, rather than the efforts of one person, and that is what would appear to be quite challenging, especially since Goths are distributed throughout the world, rather than within a distinct location, and also because Goths are individuals who are capable of making well-formulated decisions, implying that their ideas and my ideas may not come into accord. They may perhaps be utterly opposed to the mere consideration of Goth becoming established. This is what I am dreadful of."

    Now, would anyone be interested in assisting me in promoting the Gothic Culture as it should be? Also, if you wish to adhere to this vision of the culture you may certainly do so. After all, we desire those who shall preserve of Goth and espouse the beliefs which adequately represent it.

  12. Riley Says:

    how the fuck is she goth having black hair does not mean ur goth

  13. hey :) Says:

    I agree with the person above 'Riley'. I agree with Riley as well though, but since the person above had taken an extensive amount of time to write that essay, I will comment on it.

    First of all, I am a sociologist and I can't presume that others possess an adequate understanding of the term 'culture.' Most should read Wikipedia, as 'culture' can be interpreted as any shared pattern of human activity distinct from that of which is already developed.

    It doesn't refer specifically to locations, such as 'African culture' or 'Japanese culture' although that is merely what it USUALLY refers to. I give you credit for attempting to break the boundaries of what is commonly thought by addressing Goth as a culture.

    Most sociologists don't entirely agree on the definition of culture, but, if people are going to adhere to your form of Goth then it IS a culture, rather than a subculture.

  14. Marley Says:

    I agree with "Goth should be considered a legitimate culture". My brother is a Goth and thinks it should become important too. Why shouldn't it? My brother is 38, not an adolescent, and is ridiculed constantly when he goes out of town. This inspires me. Thank you for posting.

  15. 8==============================D~ Says:

    HILARY DUFF is NOT GOTH!!! Not that I care about teenybopper music artists or anything... Btw, if you count the equal signs up above that my "penis" is composed of, you will understand how many inches my ACTUAL penis is (yeah right)!

  16. charlee loves hilary duff Says:

    i love hilary but why dose she put a scorpion down her pant's in war inc ,

    it's just wierd


    charlee

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  18. shima Says:

    hilary duff is human ,we all are it doesn't matter what she does to her hair,eyes,body whatever. she doesn't care about what people say about her.its not her business! so whoever judges her on her appearance. Look at you. your not exactly perfect are you!

  19. shima Says:

    by the way i have read all these comments and some of them are very disturbing as they have some very negative comments. If you don't like hilary duff then keep it to yoursdelf. no-one needs to hear it.

  20. Narmeen Bhutto Says:

    Hey hilary i love u i hope ur life is going pretty

    well.Many of your fans miss u as u use to be and

    me too.You have gotten skinny,as we all miss yr

    that figure as well yr rosy face u had in Lizzie

    Mcguire. U're still look cool I hope you wud reply.

    Plz accept my warm love from Narmeen Bhutto

    from pakistan.

  21. WHo CAREs ABOUt HILLARy DUFf? Says:

    Goth is a religion. It is NOT a subculture for certain individuals, and crying about those religious Goths being erroneous will not suppress them. They will maintain the belief system if they are genuine. Goth is not a fad. The vacuous "mainstream" incorporates fads into daily living, and Goth is not one of these fads. Goth is sacred to many. Goth requires considerable dedication. Stop referring to celebrities as Goth. Celebrities are NOT Goth, and merely reflect society in its own vacuity, as it is society that produces and pays heed to them. Grow up and please at least attempt to increase your IQ...

  22. pretty Says:

    i think they made her dye her hair for lizzie mcguire. and the auburn hair is her natruka colour. i think it looks nice tho

  23. KLM Says:

    since we does dying ones hair a dark shade make one goth?

  24. Slaine Says:

    Oh my soul, she fucking wishes she were goth! I can see whoever wrote the article was just trying to be clever with words, but they were careless. I agree with those above who have defended and defined what gothic culture is, well done. Ahh anyway, who gives a rats ass if some dumbass reporter can't write properly, personally I think people who are so distraught over what some hollywood bimbo does to her hair need to get outside more, climb a mountain or something.

    hahahahaa! silly buggers!

  25. malossi Says:

    does anybody has a msn

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